"Most white people are part Neaderthal" - Joe Rogan

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No. Life began in Africa, so that means that science, technology, and education also began in Africa. You're thinking in the socalled modern sense of those terms but without science, technology, and education man doesn't make it out of Africa to the land called Europe.

By your logic, violence and cruelty also began in Africa then?
 

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No doubt about it, and?

Just wanted to see if you were one of the delusional people I met on here that thinks violence and cruelty began with Europeans, and that Africa and the Americas were paradises of peace before the white man came, especially considering the sheer amount of anthropological evidence that demonstrates murder and war have been a staple of human existence in every habitable continent and by every race.

That being said, that is not to give an excuse to what the Europeans did to innocent men, women and children.

I blame the rise of Christianity myself for their behavior. It gave them the false pretense that their actions were sanctioned by God. We still see that today, in Islam, just how powerful that belief can be.

During the Greek Civilizations and Roman Civilizations pre-Christianity, there was still excursions around the world, but it was nothing different than what other Empires around the world were doing. What made it really hateful, was the introduction of "fighting for Christ". For example, if you read about the Norman Invasion of the British Isles, they thought the anglo-saxon tribes and other tribes present were savages who deserved to be enslaved for the lack of belief in Christianity. The tribes people were stripped of their land, make serfs, and their women were raped. All in the name of conquest and "the Lord".

This also happened during the 1800s and 1900s with the UK and their treating of the Roman Catholic Irish. They raped, stole, indiscriminately killed, all because their they felt their brand of Christianity was superior.
 

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I agree, over the course of time religion has easily been man's number one alibi for committing murder and mayhem across the globe. It's not the religions themselves that are evil though, religion is just what man uses to justifiy being evil. Christianity is just the excuse/justification for what Europeans did, it wasnt the cause.
 
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I agree, over the course of time religion has easily been man's number one alibi for committing murder and mayhem across the globe. It's not the religions themselves that are evil though, religion is just what man uses to justifiy being evil. Christianity is just the excuse/justification for what Europeans did, it wasnt the cause.

I agree, but not with everything you said.

I feel that religion is the tool of the top players to fool the bottom players into action. Instead of a leader or king saying "Let's invade that country and kill those people so I can become more powerful and richer", it's easier to say "This is what your god wants you to do. It's your duty to God to do this". This is much easier to control the poor, naive, and sometimes uneducated populace that actually does the fighting. But I feel that most of the people who do the fighting actually believe that's the reason they are doing it for. Check out the Divine Right of Kings mentality present throughout Europe, it explains a good deal of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_right_of_kings

Here in America we replaced religion with "fighting for freedom".
 

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I agree, but not with everything you said.

I feel that religion is the tool of the top players to fool the bottom players into action. Instead of a leader or king saying "Let's invade that country and kill those people so I can become more powerful and richer", it's easier to say "This is what your god wants you to do. It's your duty to God to do this". This is much easier to control the poor, naive, and sometimes uneducated populace that actually does the fighting. But I feel that most of the people who do the fighting actually believe that's the reason they are doing it for. Check out the Divine Right of Kings mentality present throughout Europe, it explains a good deal of it.

Divine right of kings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here in America we replaced religion with "fighting for freedom".
I don't really see where we are disagreeing. I agree that religion is used as a tool to control people, an excuse to justify evil behavior, and countless other things.
 

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Exactly, and native americans have the most neanderthal genes.

My wife (han chinese) has more neanderthal genes than the average european. She also has MtDNA D4e, which means she comes from the extreme north, and many natives americans are her distant cousins.

My dad has an australiod MtDNA (m) and those robust features are clearly visible in my paternal grandma and myself.


Not to start an argument but I wanted to see how you feel on this chinese scientific study:



Go to 3:44(pictures of black asians)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiRysnPmhrc&feature=channel&list=UL"]Africans of Asia 3 - YouTube[/ame]
 
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Not to start an argument but I wanted to see how you feel on this chinese scientific study:

DNA Proves Chinese Are African - YouTube

that was about Homo Erectus, not Neanderthal

all these hominids originated in Africa. some just migrated out of Africa before others

I think the Neanderthals mated with the Homo Sapiens that left Africa. then their offspring went on to continue mating with Homo Sapiens, therefore lessening the amount of Neanderthal DNA. but some became isolated from the ongoing mating, and retained more of their Neanderthal DNA, like many Asians and Native Americans. the Native Americans were most isolated, so they retained the most, and DNA tests show that
 

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that was about Homo Erectus, not Neanderthal

all these hominids originated in Africa. some just migrated out of Africa before others

I think the Neanderthals mated with the Homo Sapiens that left Africa. then their offspring went on to continue mating with Homo Sapiens, therefore lessening the amount of Neanderthal DNA. but some became isolated from the ongoing mating, and retained more of their Neanderthal DNA, like many Asians and Native Americans. the Native Americans were most isolated, so they retained the most, and DNA tests show that

I thought I read it wasn't possible for Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens to have mated?
 

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I thought I read it wasn't possible for Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens to have mated?

that's what most people thought up until about 2 years ago when this news first dropped. I find it hard to believe you missed all the threads we've had on the subject
 

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that's what most people thought up until about 2 years ago when this news first dropped. I find it hard to believe you missed all the threads we've had on the subject

Interesting, nah I honestly havent. I must have missed threads and any mainstream news articles. Im a bit embarrassed, have a reputable study/link?
 

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that was about Homo Erectus, not Neanderthal

all these hominids originated in Africa. some just migrated out of Africa before others

I think the Neanderthals mated with the Homo Sapiens that left Africa. then their offspring went on to continue mating with Homo Sapiens, therefore lessening the amount of Neanderthal DNA. but some became isolated from the ongoing mating, and retained more of their Neanderthal DNA, like many Asians and Native Americans. the Native Americans were most isolated, so they retained the most, and DNA tests show that

I posted that to see what Principality of Zero has to say being that he keeps coming up with this theory that Asians might have not migrated out of africa. It wasn't about the neanderthal genes, I just didn't want to start a new thread on it and I wanted others to see the two videos also.

BTW, you should read the Michael Bradley website I posted as he has been studying this since the 70's when people laughed at him for talking about neanderthal genes and science is just NOW catching up. His books will also blow your mind and change your view of the world. That video I posted in another thread will also blow your mind 3x.
 
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