Mr Tendernism getting called out by other BBQ restaurants

The Phoenix

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Nope... I asked you who... and bbq competitions are bullshyt
You asked who and I told you and you don't want to accept it. If someone that has worked in and owned an actual barbecue restaurant isn't good enough then why ask. You were going to dismiss it regardless.

Naw.

Overcooked steak is dry and bad.

This is just a preference and it’s mostly about esthetics, and BBQ competition culture.


“fall off the bone” =\= “mushy and gross”
It's not just preference. We are talking about overcooked vs not overcooked. Like I said if you like overcooked ribs then fine. But it is overcooked. Ribs that are overcooked also get over-smoked. And it can lead to poor flavor and the seasoning can lose the flavor profile you were aiming for. They also become stringy after a time. It depends on when you take them off. If you overcook them "just right" you can avoid that sure, but you run the risk of leaving them mushy and flavorless. Not only that when you overcook them you render out all of the fat which is a huge part of the flavor of the rib. And if you go to reheat them they don't even taste like ribs anymore.

I don't even know why this is an argument.
 

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He hating.

I’ve never had ribs falling off the bone and thought “this shyt overcooked”
 

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No we are not.

There is a point ribs can be “fall off the bone” but not overcooked.
That's what YOU are saying it is. My point has been the same from the jump. Ribs that fall off the bone ARE overcooked. It's not a debate. It's up or down. Is the sky blue. Just because you like them are think they taste good doesn't change that they are overcooked.

He hating.

I’ve never had ribs falling off the bone and thought “this shyt overcooked”
Hating? Ribs? Why would I hate on ribs? I couldn't care less what you like.
 

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Not Gonna listen to no UNSEASONED ass white man telling us how OUR ribs sposed to be....

I been eating white people food at potlucks at work for YEARS! BLAND ass food...

Keep in mind next to them ribs they serving, there's a bowl a potato salad with strawberries and grape in it that his wife made.
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that is your opinion. Probably based on bad intel.
Wrong again. You are the one operating off opinion and I doubt you've ever even cooked a rib. Especially the way you are talking about this.

And the funny thing is, Mr Tendernism himself would tell you that it's overcooked. If he is cooking for his family and no one is around I BET you he doesn't cook them that way. This nikka is picking up the bone and often time doesn't even have to actually pull it. He just holds it barely off the plate and it slides off. That is the EPITOME of overcooked. Any barbecue chef will tell you this. It's just marketing. It looks great and if you don't know any better, you'll think that means that it's the perfect rib. The premier barbecue chef in Texas is Aaron Franklin. Years of experience and a line out the door. I can't think of any more of an expert to consult for knowledge on smoking anything. See if you can email the guy and ask him to give you his thoughts on it. If someone like that isn't qualified enough for you to take to heart then I don't know what else to tell you.

I want to be clear that I'm talking about the science of it. As much as you can make it a science. Ribs are tricky. You're preferences and tastebuds are your own. You can get a rib that is "technically" fall off the bone but you actually have to pull the bone. Where as others will just slide out. It's a fine line to walk in those situations and even in some competitions you can get away with it if it's just the right amount of pull before the bone comes out clean. Ultimately it's up to what people like to eat. I'll concede that. There are some people that know that means it's overcooked and still prefer it. My uncle is one of them and he is also a barbecue chef. He's been doing it for 40 years. But he would never tell you it isn't overcooked. There are even some restaurants that have their chefs cook them that way because there are people that like it. Have at it. I would never stand next to someone and chastise them over it.
 

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doubt you've ever even cooked
I cook for a living. Even been part of multiple rib cook offs.

Ribs can be great “fall off the bone”

and they can be taken too far.

Competition ribs are a very specific thing. I cook my ribs very differently when it’s for a completion vs for a casual situation.
 

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I cook for a living. Even been part of multiple rib cook offs.

Ribs can be great “fall off the bone”

and they can be taken too far.

Competition ribs are a very specific thing. I cook my ribs very differently when it’s for a completion vs for a casual situation.
I'm not talking about JUST competitions. I'm talking about consensus amongst a community of people. And fall off the bone is the line. Just that simple. But I'll put it another way. Just Google overcooked ribs. Don't put "fall off the bone" in there. The results will tell the tale. You won't get a bunch of pictures of burnt up ribs. You'll get pictures of fall off the bone ribs. And you'll see a bunch of "fall off the bone" results. That's because of the consensus. I would disagree that ribs can be great if they fall off the bone. But I might be the wrong person to ask because of how I was brought up. But if you are cooking for people that like it that way then that's really all that matters.
 
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