Mt. Rushmore of Rap is Jayz, 2pac, Nas, and Biggie..(poll included)
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Mt. Rushmore of Rap is Jigga, Pac, Esco, and BIG and that shyt is real talk. Those nikkas reached a tier that none is ever going to reach..not Rakim, Krs, Chuck D, Mobb, Cube....NONE (no disrespect). Why? They remained to be the most talked about rappers for two decades (that's incredible for Pac and BIG cuz their dead, they're not faded to obscurity like Eazy) their music stood the test of time and they're the most stanned rappers and they're both loved and hated. I don't even like jayz but facts are facts. Emotions go out the window when you're dealing with facts.
i like this picture and the fact that even though NaS is part of the greats, he is still in a class of his own, separated from the rest of them, introverted, on his own lane, marching by the beat of his own drums, and not by what is hot or popular
feelosofer
#ninergang
These Mount Rushmore lists are hard to make. Because hip-hop is a very personal form of music and it's hard to come to any real consensus. I will say this
Nas and Pac both belong there.
Then I would round it out with KRS-One and Kool G Rap.
Nas and Pac both belong there.
Then I would round it out with KRS-One and Kool G Rap.
The Dust King
A Childrens Story
rakim and melle mel have impact, longevity, catalogue and popularity. the fact you stated otherwise means you are not familiar with them
in 2007 jay-z inducted grand master flash and the furious five (of which melle mel is a member) into the rock and roll hall of fame and stated
"thirty years later, rappers have become rock stars, movie stars, leaders, educators, philanthropists, even CEOs. None of this would be possible without the work of these men.."- Jay-Z
so i stand by my statement.
i asked this question a few times yesterday and got different results
black nikka 30 yrs said : Nas, BIG, Jayz, Pac
spanish nikka 20 yrs said: Big L, Jay-Z, Pun, BIG
black nikka 20 yrs said: 2pac, kanye, Nas, Common
white nikka 45 said: KRS, BDK, Caz, KoolMoeDee
filipino 35 yrs said: KRS, BIG, Nas, MethodMan
spanish nikka 25 yrs said; Kool Herc, BIG, Pac, Nas
reminds me of that jin(
) song top 5 doa.."aint no best"!
that was 11 years ago.
This is a real good thread actually.. even with some unrealistic submissions by some of y'all
I dont care for Pac that much.. But he's too big of a figure to leave off. He's a given
Jay Z is too. (He surpassed Big, longevity, impact, etc..
You cant include Big off 2 albums. He was better than Jay. But its not fair to most rappers or even Jay who's been around this long when talking about a Mt Rushmore.
Nas is MY GOAT.. but I think it comes down between him and Rakim for a slot. Nas catalogue surpasses Rakim. But Rakim many consider the best rapper of the 80's and pave the way for somebody like Nas. Who do you choose??
I think a lot of people want to keep it nostalgic for a 4th spot by adding a Melle Mel or Caz, or "insert any pre-1983 rapper". Thats cool and all but are you doing it for sentimental reasons or you really think their catalogue is top notch over most in rap?? Thats what I see in this discussion.
I dont care for Pac that much.. But he's too big of a figure to leave off. He's a given
Jay Z is too. (He surpassed Big, longevity, impact, etc..
You cant include Big off 2 albums. He was better than Jay. But its not fair to most rappers or even Jay who's been around this long when talking about a Mt Rushmore.
Nas is MY GOAT.. but I think it comes down between him and Rakim for a slot. Nas catalogue surpasses Rakim. But Rakim many consider the best rapper of the 80's and pave the way for somebody like Nas. Who do you choose??
I think a lot of people want to keep it nostalgic for a 4th spot by adding a Melle Mel or Caz, or "insert any pre-1983 rapper". Thats cool and all but are you doing it for sentimental reasons or you really think their catalogue is top notch over most in rap?? Thats what I see in this discussion.
Big Skilly Films
All Star
nikkas mad nas on there but want to put too short on there? 
...gtfoh you nerds make me laugh
...gtfoh you nerds make me laughTo be completely unbiased and rational in relation to L. Deezy above, and go basically go by influence and importance to hiphop
It would be:
Rakim, Dr. Dre and 2 others.
The two others would probably be Cube and Krs and maybe just maybe Jay, Pac, Big or Nas.
Wu-tang and PE are groups so you can't really include them.
If we go by the people that are best at rapping and have achieved the greatest things in hiphop it would probably be as the threadstarter said. But then we're getting very subjective.
It would be:
Rakim, Dr. Dre and 2 others.
The two others would probably be Cube and Krs and maybe just maybe Jay, Pac, Big or Nas.
Wu-tang and PE are groups so you can't really include them.
If we go by the people that are best at rapping and have achieved the greatest things in hiphop it would probably be as the threadstarter said. But then we're getting very subjective.
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Better off just picking one rapper per region (east/west/south/north). Too much area bias to come to a consensus on a top 4.
West: Pac
East: Big
South: Scarface (since 3-Stacks hasn't put out a real solo...thought about Pimp C as another option
)
North: Eminem (coulda been Kanye, but can't knock Em's run/impact, even if it's mostly white folk buying his albums. It's damn close.).
I know, I know...you don't end up with a "best 4" this way
West: Pac
East: Big
South: Scarface (since 3-Stacks hasn't put out a real solo...thought about Pimp C as another option
)North: Eminem (coulda been Kanye, but can't knock Em's run/impact, even if it's mostly white folk buying his albums. It's damn close.).
I know, I know...you don't end up with a "best 4" this way
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
i could rock with this, LL is another I think needs more credit, dude laid the blueprint for superstardom as well as diversifying, he was beast when he was rhyming, and dude was relevant for like 20 years straight (actually more, but i'll round it off at about 2004)
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Rakim, LL and G Rap are not old school.