Muslim Travel Ban Thread (6/26: SCOTUS voted 5-4 to uphold the administration’s ban)

[Bernie Madoff]

Bbbbut we was supposed to be Winning so much we would get tired of Winning

What a statesman! Way to unite Hillary!!

 

[Reverie]

If or when this reaches the Supreme Court, I hope to Jesus they do the right thing and uphold the Constitution regardless of party affiliation.

 

[im not you]

where is saudi arabia on this travel ban list??

 

[the cac mamba]

Exactly. They plan on suppressing as many dissenting voices as they can or eliminating elections entirely. That's pretty obvious.

and ill give you the first part

 

[the cac mamba]

Burned his ass

yeah if anyone got the last laugh, its hillary clinton

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

yeah if anyone got the last laugh, its hillary clinton

 

[Starman]

SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR DONALD TRUMP



how in the fukk are his lawyers going to argue this wasn't a ban on practitioners of a specific religion?

This was a bad/political ruling.

(f)Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President


Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.

8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

Thing is, there's no recourse until Gorsuch is seated. And that's just a maybe.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Wont be hard. Almost anybody is better than Trump.

If Warren runs, orange Hitler is gone.

I don't think Warren is a good play.

 

[FaTaL]

its amazing these judges are being threatened

if they end up dead this country is defiantly turning into putin land

 

[tru_m.a.c]

up for merge

 

[tru_m.a.c]

up for merge

 

[Pressure]

This was a bad/political ruling.

(f)Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President


Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.

8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

Thing is, there's no recourse until Gorsuch is seated. And that's just a maybe.

their argument isn't that. The courts said, based on the comments of trump and his surrogates that they wanted a Muslim ban and the EO in question was their way of instituting that ban. And that is illegal.

Nothing other than pride and wanting unchecked power is stopping Trump from writing a new and better written EO that addresses what he perceives as a threat.

 

[Starman]

their argument isn't that. The courts said, based on the comments of trump and his surrogates that they wanted a Muslim ban and the EO in question was their way of instituting that ban. And that is illegal.

Nothing other than pride and wanting unchecked power is stopping Trump from writing a new and better written EO that addresses what he perceives as a threat.

It isn't illegal, the president has that power- I just showed you the law. The president doesn't have to explain this decision to the courts. Especially if we're only talking about lawful permanent residents like greencard holders.

But you're right that the court didn't rule on the merits of the case yet except to say the administration is not likely to win (). The administration also didn't prove irreparable harm if the stay of the ban remained in place.

The Trump administration had better learn quickly that a lot of people hate him and he has to be perfect to even stand a chance. That sloppy roll out of this EO, and haphazard performance in court is not gonna cut it. At all. Law be damned.

 

[theworldismine13]

It isn't illegal, the president has that power- I just showed you the law. The president doesn't have to explain this decision to the courts. Especially if we're only talking about lawful permanent residents like greencard holders.

But you're right that the court didn't rule on the merits of the case yet except to say the administration is not likely to win (). The administration also didn't prove irreparable harm if the stay of the ban remained in place.

The Trump administration had better learn quickly that a lot of people hate him and he has to be perfect to even stand a chance. That sloppy roll out of this EO, and haphazard performance in court is not gonna cut it. At all. Law be damned.

agreed except for the part about the court the executive not having to explain themselves to the court, that is a big mistake, its not just wrong, the court can review whatever the hell it wants, its a bad strategy to tell a judge something like that for emotional reasons lol, they aint gonna like that, they might rule against you just so they could show whose boss, which i think was part of the reason trump lost

also the whole thing about the states not having standing is wrong, since the courts just ruled that obama's executive order to give amnesty to young kids was wrong based on the principle that states have standing if an executive order harms them

but i agree that on the merits and overall trump is in the right

 

[DEAD7]

The last 4 presidents have restricted immigration as well with no outcry... Obama did it something like 19 times im hearing.




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