Muslims explain this....

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Koran 3:28

"Let believers (Muslims) not take infidels [non-Muslins] for friends and allies instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allahโ€”except when taking precaution with them in prudence."


Al-Tabari , author of a mainstream Koran commentary, offers the following exegesis of 3:28: "If you [Muslims] are under their [non-Muslims] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them with your tongue while harboring inner animosity for them...[know that] Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels rather than other believers โ€” except when infidels are above them [in authority]. Should that be the case, let them act friendly towards them while preserving their religion."
 
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They are are allowed to lie when living among the kuffar (disbelievers). The tafsir is clear I'm not the one saying. Their own books are making that claim.
 

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I thought it was pretty common that most Muslims are liars? ๐Ÿค” I personally don't believe/trust any Muslim, male or female, black or white.
 

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Note that The Quran is in a poetic order, there's Meccan (pre-expansion) and Medinan (post-expansion)

Chapter three was around the time the Muslims were fighting pagans in Medina, the Muslims won in the end, but they suffered heavy losses, major figures were assassinated

I will say this, once you put any religious book in the proper context where and when it was written, religious figures don't seem like prophets at all

Muhammad was a glorified fanfic writer, but your boy Paul was way, way worse in that regard
 

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Note that The Quran is in a poetic order, there's Meccan (pre-expansion) and Medinan (post-expansion)

Chapter three was around the time the Muslims were fighting pagans in Medina, the Muslims won in the end, but they suffered heavy losses, major figures were assassinated

I will say this, once you put any religious book in the proper context where and when it was written, religious figures don't seem like prophets at all

Muhammad was a glorified fanfic writer, but your boy Paul was way, way worse in that regard
Based on this logic are you conceding that the Quran is not a book for all times? But only certain times in history?
Are you saying this verse is no longer applicable in 2023?
 

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Based on this logic are you conceding that the Quran is not a book for all times? But only certain times in history?
Are you saying this verse is no longer applicable in 2023?
Conceding implies I'm a muslim, the quran (and every religious book) runs into the Seinfeld dilemma: if there were cell phones (or any modern tech) at the time, it wouldn't work

So to answer the bolded, yes, there's nothing wrong with a diverse circle of friends
 

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The Bible, Koran and all other religious books were inspired deliberately by God.

This is evident in the story of the Tower of Babel.

Religions are methods by which diversity in thought processes and behavioral patterns, is made possible.

When there is diversity, there is sure to be conflict. And when there is conflict, thereโ€™s sure to be loss of life. And when there is loss of life, the worlds population is kept from growing out of control.

You donโ€™t have to believe this. Just look at the situation of animals out in the jungle. If the lions and cheetahs and leopards arenโ€™t out hunting gazelles and other animals, things will get ugly very fastโ€ฆlike the rabbit problem I believe Australia use to have.

When you get this, you know how to move in society. You move with purpose.

The world may seem random to you, but I assure you it is not.
 

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Sounds crooked and corrupt. Thank goodness the Bible is the complete opposite :blessed:.
@Chrishaune @Anhur @Slaimon Khan Shah :jbhmm:


Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, โ€œBy Allah, the son of Mary will descend as a just ruler. He will abolish the cross, kill the swine, and annul the tribute, but he will leave the she-camel such that no one collects from it. He will cause rancor, hatred, and envy to disappear, and he will call people to give their wealth in charity but no one will need it.โ€

Source: Sฬฃahฬฃiฬ„hฬฃ Muslim 155

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

ุนูŽู†ู’ ุฃูŽุจููŠ ู‡ูุฑูŽูŠู’ุฑูŽุฉูŽ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ุฑูŽุณููˆู„ู ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ุตูŽู„ูŽู‘ู‰ ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ู ูˆูŽุณูŽู„ูŽู‘ู…ูŽ ูˆูŽุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ู„ูŽูŠูŽู†ู’ุฒูู„ูŽู†ูŽู‘ ุงุจู’ู†ู ู…ูŽุฑู’ูŠูŽู…ูŽ ุญูŽูƒูŽู…ู‹ุง ุนูŽุงุฏูู„ู‹ุง ููŽู„ูŽูŠูŽูƒู’ุณูุฑูŽู†ูŽู‘ ุงู„ุตูŽู‘ู„ููŠุจูŽ ูˆูŽู„ูŽูŠูŽู‚ู’ุชูู„ูŽู†ูŽู‘ ุงู„ู’ุฎูู†ู’ุฒููŠุฑูŽ ูˆูŽู„ูŽูŠูŽุถูŽุนูŽู†ูŽู‘ ุงู„ู’ุฌูุฒู’ูŠูŽุฉูŽ ูˆูŽู„ูŽุชูุชู’ุฑูŽูƒูŽู†ูŽู‘ ุงู„ู’ู‚ูู„ูŽุงุตู ููŽู„ูŽุง ูŠูุณู’ุนูŽู‰ ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ูŽุง ูˆูŽู„ูŽุชูŽุฐู’ู‡ูŽุจูŽู†ูŽู‘ ุงู„ุดูŽู‘ุญู’ู†ูŽุงุกู ูˆูŽุงู„ุชูŽู‘ุจูŽุงุบูุถู ูˆูŽุงู„ุชูŽู‘ุญูŽุงุณูุฏู ูˆูŽู„ูŽูŠูŽุฏู’ุนููˆูŽู†ูŽู‘ ุฅูู„ูŽู‰ ุงู„ู’ู…ูŽุงู„ู ููŽู„ูŽุง ูŠูŽู‚ู’ุจูŽู„ูู‡ู ุฃูŽุญูŽุฏูŒ

155 ุตุญูŠุญ ู…ุณู„ู… ูƒุชุงุจ ุงู„ุฅูŠู…ุงู† ุจุงุจ ู†ุฒูˆู„ ุนูŠุณู‰ ุงุจู† ู…ุฑูŠู… ุญุงูƒู…ุง ุจุดุฑูŠุนุฉ ู†ุจูŠู†ุง ู…ุญู…ุฏ ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู…​

why do you think they say this
 
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