Muslims explain this....

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Thou shall not suffer a witch to live says leviticus

 

[HarlemHottie]

Iirc, Jews say the same shyt. So? These are the religions of clannish desert dwellers living at the crossroads of the known world. I'd expect them to be circumspect.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Thou shall not suffer a witch to live says leviticus

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

You can cast your spells on my spaghetti any day

 

[moorfeus]

Koran 3:28

"Let believers (Muslims) not take infidels [non-Muslins] for friends and allies instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah—except when taking precaution with them in prudence."


Al-Tabari , author of a mainstream Koran commentary, offers the following exegesis of 3:28: "If you [Muslims] are under their [non-Muslims] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them with your tongue while harboring inner animosity for them...[know that] Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels rather than other believers — except when infidels are above them [in authority]. Should that be the case, let them act friendly towards them while preserving their religion."

Infidels are not non-Muslims. Infidels are non-believers in God. Jews and Christians are not infidels if they believe in God. The God of Jesus, Abraham, etc is Allah, that's why these same characters from the bible are also in the Quran!
Only some extremist idiot would call other believers infidels! That is extremely disrespectful and goes against the peaceful nature of the world Islam, the root word, salaam, means peace.

GROSS MISTRANSLATION!

(3:28) The believers may not take the unbelievers for their allies in preference to those who believe. Whoever does this has nothing to do with Allah unless he does so in order to protect himself from their wrong-doing. Allah warns you to beware of Him for it is to Allah that you will return.

 

[50CentStan]

Do you understand Arabic? I ask because that translation is clearly wrong, an infidel is a Godless person, Jews and Christians are not considered infidels in Islam.

And from just reading the verse you posted its clearly means favor a Muslim over an infidel. Do not fight/war against other Muslims, take them as allies as opposed to infidels.


and as far as lying under foreign rule, from my understanding thats a shyte thing. Which is not a mainstream Muslim belief. In fact there are plenty of examples throughout history of Muslims not renouncing their faith and being executed for it. There's a lot of scholars online who you can reach out to for explanations, but you already knew that.

 

[voiture]

Do you understand Arabic? I ask because that translation is clearly wrong, an infidel is a Godless person, Jews and Christians are not considered infidels in Islam.

And from just reading the verse you posted its clearly means favor a Muslim over an infidel. Do not fight/war against other Muslims, take them as allies as opposed to infidels.


and as far as lying under foreign rule, from my understanding thats a shyte thing. Which is not a mainstream Muslim belief. In fact there are plenty of examples throughout history of Muslims not renouncing their faith and being executed for it. There's a lot of scholars online who you can reach out to for explanations, but you already knew that.

Why are you lying? Your Allah accuses the Christians and Jews of being infidels. That they associate partners with Allah which is the biggest form of sin in Islam which cannot be forgiven. Why are you disagreeing with what the Quran says?

Quran 9:31 Explicitly calls the Christian and Jews Mushriks! (يُشْرِكُونَ)

"They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allāh,1 and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary.2 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him."


Speaking of translations....The people who did these translations are scholars with PhD's like Yusuf Ali etc.. from reputable Islamic colleges. What credentials do you have to say their translations are wrong? These people literally went to school to study Quran and classical Arabic and you are over here accusing them of making false translations? Where is your PhD in Islamic studies to be making that accusation? Just because the verse is embarrassing doesn't mean translation is false. I trust those with PhDs making Quran translations than you.

Also did Allah lie when he accuse the people of the book (Ahl al-Kitāb) of being Mushrikoon? Since you disagree with what the Quran classifies as infidels which includes the Christians and the Jews (which is why jizya even levied on them since zakat is for believers)

 

[voiture]

Infidels are not non-Muslims. Infidels are non-believers in God. Jews and Christians are not infidels if they believe in God. The God of Jesus, Abraham, etc is Allah, that's why these same characters from the bible are also in the Quran!
Only some extremist idiot would call other believers infidels! That is extremely disrespectful and goes against the peaceful nature of the world Islam, the root word, salaam, means peace.

GROSS MISTRANSLATION!

(3:28) The believers may not take the unbelievers for their allies in preference to those who believe. Whoever does this has nothing to do with Allah unless he does so in order to protect himself from their wrong-doing. Allah warns you to beware of Him for it is to Allah that you will return.

Christians and Jews qualify as infidels according to the Quran because they both engage in shirk. See my post above.
The Quran is clear about this so don't create a new religion.

 

[50CentStan]

Why are you lying? Your Allah accuses the Christians and Jews of being infidels. That they associate partners with Allah which is the biggest form of sin in Islam which cannot be forgiven. Why are you disagreeing with what the Quran says?

Quran 9:31 Explicitly calls the Christian and Jews Mushriks! (يُشْرِكُونَ)

"They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allāh,1 and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary.2 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him."


Speaking of translations....The people who did these translations are scholars with PhD's like Yusuf Ali etc.. from reputable Islamic colleges. What credentials do you have to say their translations are wrong? These people literally went to school to study Quran and classical Arabic and you are over here accusing them of making false translations? Where is your PhD in Islamic studies to be making that accusation? Just because the verse is embarrassing doesn't mean translation is false. I trust those with PhDs making Quran translations than you.

Also did Allah lie when he accuse the people of the book (Ahl al-Kitāb) of being Mushrikoon? Since you disagree with what the Quran classifies as infidels which includes the Christians and the Jews (which is why jizya even levied on them since zakat is for believers)

You're just copying and pasting stuff from people who have failed to refute the the Quran and Islam.

Absolutely if someone associates anything with God it is the biggest sin. And you are claiming that all Christians and Jews are committing Shirk. There are even muslims who commit shirk. The point still stands, The simplest way to put it is the infidel is someone who doesnt believe in the God of Ibrahim.



There is a clear difference in the Quran between the infidel and the people of the book.

 

[voiture]

You're just copying and pasting stuff from people who have failed to refute the the Quran and Islam.

Absolutely if someone associates anything with God it is the biggest sin. And you are claiming that all Christians and Jews are committing Shirk. There are even muslims who commit shirk. The point still stands, The simplest way to put it is the infidel is someone who doesnt believe in the God of Ibrahim.



There is a clear difference in the Quran between the infidel and the people of the book.

Of course I'm copying and pasting what the Quran says? Hello? Where else will I get this info from?

So Mushriks are not infidels? Is that your position or that is the position of Islamic scholars? I'm shocked because this is the first time I'm hearing Muslims (I assume you are) making the claim Jews and Christians are not infidels.

Listen to Yasir Qadhi (with multiple PhD's in Islamic studies) He is more educated in Islam than you will EVER be. Accuse the Christians and Jews of being worst than even some believers because they engage in the "evils of all evils" shirk.....Watch this video




Before I push further what sect are you? Maybe you are not a traditional Sunni or Shia and from a different sect. In that case I can understand but you are going against the orthodox Sunni teachings about the Christians and Jews being infidels so I'm confused.

 

[Will Ross]

You're just copying and pasting stuff from people who have failed to refute the the Quran and Islam.

Absolutely if someone associates anything with God it is the biggest sin. And you are claiming that all Christians and Jews are committing Shirk. There are even muslims who commit shirk. The point still stands, The simplest way to put it is the infidel is someone who doesnt believe in the God of Ibrahim.



There is a clear difference in the Quran between the infidel and the people of the book.

Stop the cap Christian and Jews are seen as infidel to Muslims.

 

[The Connoisseurs]

The Bible, Koran and all other religious books were inspired deliberately by God.

This is evident in the story of the Tower of Babel.

Which one is actually inspired FROM GD
?
That’s the major debate

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

All abrahaamic religions like this

 

[Chrishaune]

All abrahaamic religions like this

NOPE

Matthew 5:43-48

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor (fellow man) and hate your enemy.’

44 But I say to you, [n]love [that is, unselfishly seek the best or higher good for] your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

45 so that you may [show yourselves to] be the children of your Father who is in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on those who are evil and on those who are good, and makes the rain fall on the righteous [those who are morally upright] and the unrighteous [the unrepentant, those who oppose Him].

46 For if you love [only] those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do that?

47 And if you greet only your brothers [wishing them God’s blessing and peace], what more [than others] are you doing? Do not even the Gentiles [who do not know the Lord] do that?

48 You, therefore, will be perfect [growing into spiritual maturity both in mind and character, actively integrating godly values into your daily life], as your heavenly Father is perfect.