My athiest bruhs, thoughts on this...
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Evolution is bullshyt because there is no mention of the fact that talking serpents once roamed the earth
Are hissing humans easier to believe in
?maybe everything spoke the same language
I guess it's a coincidence that it only goes on in Muslim countries then huh?
Once again, something has been going on before Islam.
He's essentially making Paley's watchmaker argument (i.e. the complexity of a fine watch necessitates an intelligent designer of the watch. Therefore, the universe's complexities like the aforementioned watch necessitates an intelligent designer). There are some damning criticisms of this argument. As Hume pointed out, it is entirely dependent upon induction (drawing general conclusions based on particular past experiences). We can view a watchmaker and see that he has designed a watch. We have experiences with the creation of watches vis-à-vis watchmakers and can say, "Watches come from watchmakers." We can compare one watch to another after its creation and so forth. We have no such experience with the creation of our universe or any other universe, and never will. Thus, its not logical to conclude that the universe was created by an intelligent designer like a car or watch by observing its complexities. Besides that, let's say that there is something to the watchmaker argument. How do you derive from that the Abrahamic, all-powerful, benevolent deity? Underlying Paley's argument is the notion of "like causes of effects (i.e. watchmaker makes the watch, so it came from somewhere. An example from the video was a Lamborghini and we know they have to come from somewhere; universe is complex, someone intelligent had to create it. It had to come from somewhere). This is problematic if you aren't picking and choosing what you want to adhere to and apply like causes of effect uniformly. For instance, if you take the the Lamborghini example, no one person makes an Lamborghini. It's a team effort by many collaborators. Why wouldn't you say it's likely that many Gods created the universe? No one would claim the watchmaker himself as wholly benevolent, omniscient, omnipotent, etc. Why would you say the creator of the universe is?
I think Dawkins has the best criticism of this argument, though. This position conflates the complexity that is a byproduct of living organisms ability to reproduce themselves (and as such may become more complex gradually over time) and the complexity of inanimate objects, unable to pass on any reproductive changes (such as the minute parts of a manufactured watch).
I think Dawkins has the best criticism of this argument, though. This position conflates the complexity that is a byproduct of living organisms ability to reproduce themselves (and as such may become more complex gradually over time) and the complexity of inanimate objects, unable to pass on any reproductive changes (such as the minute parts of a manufactured watch).
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I don't know...parrots can talk abit
Pregnant Sudanese woman faces death by hanging for refusing to recant Christianity - NY Daily News
i know its been going on before islam, but its only still going on IN islam. why is that?
I just looked this up, im no biologist but I know biology well, and this study sounds wrong for multiple reasons. its going off the assumption that evolution is based on gene changes, and if changing a gene doesn't lead to mutations then evolution is false. first off, we don't know how evolution even works, weve just seen it. it also assumes that evolution occurs constantly and in measureable ways over decades. First off, evolution happens over hundreds of thousands of years, to believe that decades would work to see if mutations occurred is silly honestly. Theres much more evidence for evolution then theres evidence from this study against it. This study doesn't take a multitude of important factors into consideration, if it was even slightly accurate then wouldn't you think there would be more serious discussion about the viability of the evolution argument (besides creationists citing the bible)?
Arabs refuse to let go of their customs. A lot of people don't understand this but when Islam spread across other contingents a lot of that middle eastern stuff went with it. People have evolve beyond such cruel acts of punishment but some (Hard line traditionalist) benefit from the old ways to help them control their village, city or whatever.
Same thing can be said about or Death Penalty.
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Breh..fruit flies have a short life span..a decade to us is like a 100 generations of a fruit fly..creationists have more valid arguments than evolutionists..that's why evolutionists can never win debates with them..hence that bill Nye debate
well im much more inclined towards science so I guess I have a bias. I haven't looked into the evolution debate but in school ive been taught that evolution is without a doubt the way things work, and its always made sense to me
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Breh..Tyson works for the government..half of what he says is bullshyt..he's indoctrinated into the system..
