My biggest issue with this GSW super team is...

[The_Sheff]

How many teams would have made Tony Parker and Manu what they became?

Not many because the Spurs actually DEVELOP players.

Hell Kahwi is great but he wouldn't be what he is without the Spurs DEVELOPMENT.

More teams need to follow Pop's Blueprint.

Two of those players had extensive playing experience and development at a professional level before hitting the NBA. The problem is that players get almost no development in college now. You really don't have a clue as to the type of player you are drafting and their work ethic. I mean seriously it's very common to see a criticism of a top draft pick is that he can't shoot or dribble. How the fukk are you a top pick and can't shoot or handle the ball?

 

[Goat poster]

I'm not gonna disrepect the Dubs and call it luck but the team they have now isn't what they thought they were building 4,5 years ago. Nobody saw Draymond becoming what he is now and nobody saw Curry becoming an MVP, revolutionary type player. Then they hit in the draft twice on Klay and Barnes (I give them props but smart, diligent GMs miss in the draft every year so there's a lot of luck involved). Then all of those pieces happened to fit perfectly together. Then the stuff with Curry's ankles let them sign him to a ridiculously favorable deal immediately before he blew up which allowed them the room to re-sign Klay and Draymond to big deals and then the cap spiked in time for them to have max money still and then there happened to be a superstar talent willing to go to the team that just beat him which is unprecedented. That aint a repeatable formula

Exactly!!
I keep saying they are a once in a lifetime team.

This is often overlooked though. Ppl would rather talk about Bron.

 

[street heat]

Two of those players had extensive playing experience and development at a professional level before hitting the NBA. The problem is that players get almost no development in college now. You really don't have a clue as to the type of player you are drafting and their work ethic. I mean seriously it's very common to see a criticism of a top draft pick is that he can't shoot or dribble. How the fukk are you a top pick and can't shoot or handle the ball?

usually the gap in athletcism was so wide against their peers they didnt need it to get buckets.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

i dont think its all about development. you can only develop guys so much. yall act like anyone could be steph, klay, green, or durant with the proper development. these are guys with natural gifts. once in a lifetime type players they were fortunate to get their hands on. theses types of players arent in every draft. sure some GMs need to do better but there is a lot of luck involved in this too. there may be a gem in the draft you just arent in position to get. and as far as free agency, players hold the power now. if they just dont want to live in a certain city then aint shyt you can do about that.

When Patrick McCaw becomes a problem they'll believe in our system.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Allen Crabbe got 70 million

Evan Turner got 70 million

Horford got 120 million

Barnes got 94 million

Until they get rid of the cap on player contracts like @houston911 you will having these marginal players overpaid for no production that leads to real winning.

The NBA CBA is bad for superstars and fans. Works for mediocre players with "upside" and owners

 

[CarltonJunior]

Not enough IMO

BKN is trash and we just laugh at them sometimes...not point out the fact after failing w big names who all left...they have no idea how to run a big market team

PHI will b good in the long run but spent four years defrauding the home fans...they were open w the tank but stilk charged full price

NOP has made trash personnel mive after move but i gotta hear AD is overrated because he cant carry a team that got Bobby Turner from the DLeague Idaho Corn Flickers to a 8 seed in the WEST that means getting swept by GSW

Crazy part is, on the rare occasion that he and Jrue are both healthy they're actually tough to beat. ADs entire tenure has been shyt rosters with no depth.

AD got help now. I think they will gradually become the 2nd best team in the west

 

[El Coupeacabra]

I'm not gonna disrepect the Dubs and call it luck but the team they have now isn't what they thought they were building 4,5 years ago. Nobody saw Draymond becoming what he is now and nobody saw Curry becoming an MVP, revolutionary type player. Then they hit in the draft twice on Klay and Barnes (I give them props but smart, diligent GMs miss in the draft every year so there's a lot of luck involved). Then all of those pieces happened to fit perfectly together. Then the stuff with Curry's ankles let them sign him to a ridiculously favorable deal immediately before he blew up which allowed them the room to re-sign Klay and Draymond to big deals and then the cap spiked in time for them to have max money still and then there happened to be a superstar talent willing to go to the team that just beat him which is unprecedented. That aint a repeatable formula

Look at the Bucks right now. They have a potential Superstar in Giannis, solid backup for him with Middleton, Maker, Delly and Monroe. Maybe more if Parker can stay healthy.

They might legitimately be one secondary star away from knocking Cleveland off.

And who knows, Giannis might develop a halfcourt game and go completely apeshyt on the league.

But in order to see that the GM in Milwaukee has to keep making moves that pushes them towards that.

Instead of being stagnant (think Toronto and Indiana) and trying to just be barely good enough to make noise.

Because when you have a player with even a glimmer of transcendent talent...you HAVE to maximize it. Or they pull a Bron/KD and go somwhere that will

 

[CrimsonTider]

Two of those players had extensive playing experience and development at a professional level before hitting the NBA. The problem is that players get almost no development in college now. You really don't have a clue as to the type of player you are drafting and their work ethic. I mean seriously it's very common to see a criticism of a top draft pick is that he can't shoot or dribble. How the fukk are you a top pick and can't shoot or handle the ball?

This is a huge problem.

Its like these dudes get anointed there Junior year in HS and as long as they show flashes of athleticism in their 1 and done year scout believe they have the upside to be a centerpiece for a team.

Its a joke.

 

[Absolut]

Allen Crabbe got 70 million

Evan Turner got 70 million

Horford got 120 million

Barnes got 94 million

Until they get rid of the cap on player contracts like @houston911 you will having these marginal players overpaid for no production that leads to real winning.

The NBA CBA is bad for superstars and fans. Works for mediocre players with "upside" and owners

this is exactly it. You have to spend shytty to hit the salary floor. Tough to rebuild while having to pay middle tier guys top tier money, and getting roped into long term deals with that marginal talent

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Front offices get criticized all the time. The problem is twofold:

1. Half the time you don't know who they are.

2. If your beef is with the owner it's a losing battle. He's not going anywhere.


But yes, with some teams the strategy now is "wait out Golden State."

Its going to be interesting to watch the T-Wolves develop. Are they the next OKC or the next GS (in a few years)

 

[Verbal Kint]

Look at the Bucks right now. They have a potential Superstar in Giannis, solid backup for him with Middleton, Maker, Delly and Monroe. Maybe more if Parker can stay healthy.

They might legitimately be one secondary star away from knocking Cleveland off.

And who knows, Giannis might develop a halfcourt game and go completely apeshyt on the league.

But in order to see that the GM in Milwaukee has to keep making moves that pushes them towards that.

Instead of being stagnant (think Toronto and Indiana) and trying to just be barely good enough to make noise.

Because when you have a player with even a glimmer of transcendent talent...you HAVE to maximize it. Or they pull a Bron/KD and go somwhere that will

True, and that'll matter again in 4 or 5 years or so. As long as this GSW team is in tact it won't matter. The cap is specifically designed to prevent teams from having 3 or 4 max level players on one team so other teams can't even match it if they try unless a bunch of All Stars decide to start taking huge paycuts like David West. Right now only squads like Milwaukee and MN can genuinely say they're hopeful for the future because their best players are so young they'll be in their prime when GS finally falls back to the pack

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

If I'm the Grizzles I take this opportunity to rebuild, there's literally no point in trying to piece that roster together especially with Lord Finesse Chandler Parsons stealing money, I'd stretch provision him, trade Gasol and Conley to the highest bidders & call it a day.



The young teams like the Wolves & Nuggets are really the teams that should be looking to compete with the Warriors in 2-3 years time, everyone else in the West is kidding themselves.

What about the Suns young core.

What if Booker just surprisingly becomes that dude

 

[Malta]

What about the Suns young core.

What if Booker just surprisingly becomes that dude

Nah, they lack the interior presence to make GS work.


The Nuggets and Wolves have the talented multi-dimensional interior player, to beat them in the future you're going to need a team that has a player they can't account for which would be a talented frontcourt built around with the modern game in mind. A big that can actually stay on the floor when GS goes small basically.

 

[010101]

it's a new day soon come you gonna need a starting5 of mvp tier players to cut it
it's not about individual talent and individual match ups anymore
get all the weapons you can and throw threes til they tap

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[010101]

age will phase the dubs out chef got one year before the wall at 30*