My case against Nancy Pelosi as Speaker

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She's probably going to get it by default this session, but she needs to be gone in 2020.

First off is how she came into power. Old head news, this was middle of the Iraq war people were pissed and wanted to see teh Bush administration held to account. Nancy Pelosi started talking a big game when the spot opened up, but soon as she won it she backed off on all her big talk.

Second, Pelosi and Harry Reid were both in the "vote for Obama care then pretend it didn't happen" school instead of going to the mats explaining why it was such an important program. So, her and Reid basically let Republicans write the storyline that the ACA sucked and that stuck for 6-8 years before even Republicans figured out "hey I can actually afford good health care now"

Third, I don't care hwo good she is at backroom deals (that's what people are trying to spin us on). If you let your public reputation get trashed as much as she has, you just don't have the chops to be the face of Democrats in the House.

Fourth, most of her time she's been in the minority and getting trucked by the Republican agenda. So, in addition to not evecn being able to protect her own image, she's not doing anything for the party either. You look at some of the crazy scandals that should have been used to paint Republicans in the past 10 years, she hasn't capitalized on any of it.

Fifth, and this isn't really evidence based but I think it's time for new blood. We need new people in leadership. Under the Harry Reid, Schumer, Pelosi era, all Democratic leadership cared abotu was winning their own districts by 20 points. We need people dedicated to a nation-wide strategy not self-preservation.

Sixth, the way Marcia Fudge got treated was trash. I have no doubt the Pelosi team dredged up that shyt to tank her candidacy for Speaker. I've been watching the news, and people are speaking on Fudge like she held that judge's wife down while he beat her.

Seventh, if Trump is endorsing you odds are you're not good for the party.
 

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honestly, if there was a real person who had expressed interest and they were worth a shyt i would be more pissed, but i didnt really see anyone

you're right about 2020 though. 2 years and that's it :camby:
 

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She should serve until 2020. Then, she should either retire from Congress or step down from the Speakership.

Cedric Richmond or Ben Ray Lujan should succeed her as Speaker.
 

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My main issue with Pelosi is pretty simple: She's good at fundraising but not very good at winning elections.

I really don't care about the Republican slander because it's mostly bullshyt and they'll hate any Democratic speaker regardless, but when it comes to actual elections it doesn't seem like she's an asset.
 

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All corporate Democrats need to get out because they simply suck and can't win shyt and spend most of their time conceding and compromising to Fascism...

They are literally Europe and the Republicans are Hitler...

"Maybe if we just reach an understanding, the Republicans will act reasonably..."

And time and time again...we have seen that shyt ain't true...

The Clintons, Obamas, Pelosi need to fukking go...

They are losers...
 

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I don't care about anything except voting repblicans OUT

I have no opinion on who the speaker should be so long as Dems control it
 
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