My IT Brehs, should I just skip getting a A+ cert??? -QUESTION!!!!

[Luken]

yeah, like everyone said its useless. contrary to popular belief, this isnt just some field you can just jump into, you actually have to know computers and what your doing. thats how you can even get biggest gig with no certs.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I got my A+ in october, have zero IT experience on the job, but pieced together experience from doing it as a hobby and helping with the rollout of thin clients
at my current job.

Since October 21, I've been offered 10 positions, even if 4 of them were Retail positions. Monday I sign papers to be an Information Technology Specialist
off the strength of my A+. As the head of IT said "Your resume is in front of me because of the A+".

Going for something like CCNA right out the gate will only get you into Help Desk, cause you still need experience. The only downside to A+ is its cost relative
to other certs. I say get that shyt and then assess from there.

My nikka you are basically going directly into helpdesk with minimal experience and only an A+.

Experience is everything but you have a MUCH better come up with CCNA or any highlevel cert even if you don't have an A+.



A+ is just cool to get if you have minimum to no experience. You don't even need certs to work helpdesk it just makes you standout more.

 

[At30wecashout]

My nikka you are basically going directly into helpdesk with minimal experience and only an A+.

Experience is everything but you have a MUCH better come up with CCNA or any highlevel cert even if you don't have an A+.



A+ is just cool to get if you have minimum to no experience. You don't even need certs to work helpdesk it just makes you standout more.

My point was if you gonna start Helpdesk anyway, there might not be a real rush to get that CCNA when A+ can get him started.

The information to digest in CCNA...just subnetting alone...thats gonna take some time to soak up. I'm positive I can teach someone what they need to know within two weeks
if they are starting from zilch. The point is to get that employment now. Not to mention, who says he even has the basics of A+ down? We jumping to networking and don't
even grasp the fundamentals? It has a place. I'm going to get my CCNA next, but the A+ tells them I know what I need to know roughly. Not everybody is a lifer who can
leapfrog the A+. Now if he was jumping straight into a networking position, that would be different. Since he isn't, A+ helps. I even turned down two interviews with a local
MSP and a Library, and the biggest thing I did was retool my resume and put that A+ up top with my skills.

So many people wanna get into IT just to cake...how can we be sure they got what it takes to even pass a CCNA?

 

[Axolotl]

Thanks for all yall helpful replies guys

 

[Axolotl]

I would say skip it depending on what type of IT you're trying to do

If you are brandnew to computers in general then its good to study but ultimately doesn't mean shyt.

I have it, been had it for damn near 10 years and barely use it. I also had Sec+ and couldve gotten Net+ easily but more focused on CCNA and CISSP

All the CompTIA certs are useless outside of S+

To be fair thought ive never had any certs outside the CSM.

They are only good to have if you dont have a degree or experience. So many certs have bootcamps and braindumps that many people look at the average cert kinda sus.

The only exception is hyper elite certs like the CCIE

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I got my A+ in october, have zero IT experience on the job, but pieced together experience from doing it as a hobby and helping with the rollout of thin clients
at my current job.

Since October 21, I've been offered 10 positions, even if 4 of them were Retail positions. Monday I sign papers to be an Information Technology Specialist
off the strength of my A+. As the head of IT said "Your resume is in front of me because of the A+".

Going for something like CCNA right out the gate will only get you into Help Desk, cause you still need experience. The only downside to A+ is its cost relative
to other certs. I say get that shyt and then assess from there.

Yes. A+ is useless. Find something in Networking like CCNA, in IT Security while trying to find a job in NOC, or programming. Several areas you can pick.
Also join 6 Figs, 6 Certs section. Lots of brehs willing to help.

Thanks for the advice bros.

I have a few more questions
Security + vs Network +, which is a better choice?
good pdf, websites, books, etc to study for certs? I already got the S + pdf
how long does it take to get an average cert?? specially S+, CCNA. I just want to pace myself well

 

[Axolotl]

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[Axolotl]

My bad computer spazzed.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Thanks for the advice bros.

I have a few more questions
Security + vs Network +, which is a better choice?
good pdf, websites, books, etc to study for certs? I already got the S + pdf
how long does it take to get an average cert?? specially S+, CCNA. I just want to pace myself well

Depends on what direction you going

S+ is easy af but to get into security thats like a basic.

Net+ is similar to A+ just dealing with networks but from my experience it's just as useless.. Good shyt to have and to know, to start for your ccna, maybe put on a resume to do helpdesk but its not needed or even asked for from my experience. Nobody I knew talked about it in the military and nobody I knew talked about it from the civilian side.

My point was if you gonna start Helpdesk anyway, there might not be a real rush to get that CCNA when A+ can get him started.

The information to digest in CCNA...just subnetting alone...thats gonna take some time to soak up. I'm positive I can teach someone what they need to know within two weeks
if they are starting from zilch. The point is to get that employment now. Not to mention, who says he even has the basics of A+ down? We jumping to networking and don't
even grasp the fundamentals? It has a place. I'm going to get my CCNA next, but the A+ tells them I know what I need to know roughly. Not everybody is a lifer who can
leapfrog the A+. Now if he was jumping straight into a networking position, that would be different. Since he isn't, A+ helps. I even turned down two interviews with a local
MSP and a Library, and the biggest thing I did was retool my resume and put that A+ up top with my skills.

So many people wanna get into IT just to cake...how can we be sure they got what it takes to even pass a CCNA?

We don't even know if they got what it takes to pass an A+ but from MY own personal opinion and the fact that I been doing IT for over a decade, my mother has been doing it (and started off in IT with NO certs and doesn't even know or care wtf A+ is), A+ is not needed.

CCNA takes dedication and training... Like actually being taught by nikkas if you haven't been in IT long or just starting out. A+ isn't going to help you with shyt in CCNA because last I remember, A+ had nothing to do with networking really.. It was bullshyt.

And regardless where you start, A+ is not gonna help you in the long run.. Why waste time? and even if you start at helpdesk with a CCNA, you only gonna be there for the MINIMUM amount of time.

shyt if you just study CCNA you could probably still pass the A+.

My homie got his CCNA and was working helpdesk a year ago, no experience. He just hit me on Linkedin where he moved into a manager role at another company and already got a raise. He grinded while he worked that bullshyt helpdesk job.

My mother left from being a cop to IT like 20 years ago.. Started working helpdesk with no certs. She did that CCNA shyt with OUR mentor (because he trained me as well) and it took her about a year of grinding. No background in IT... Once she got her CCNA she moved to Atlanta and ain't made under 100k ever since, still grinding, still in IT, still a shift manager, hasn't even recertified


Why waste his time? I got my A+ in school because I had too and couldn't skip over it for Net+ (like I wanted to). I interned with the guy that taught my mom for a week and he dropped me 1k just to chill at Saks Fifth Avenue headquarters in Mississippi where he was contracted at and he went through my dumbass Mike Meyers A+ book in less than an hour and told me what I needed to know and didn't need to know. I hated that fukking cert, and CCNA/Net+ was actually easier to me because it was more interesting

Idgaf about motherboards or fixing fukking printers. Idgaf about Ram, gig size, most that pc nerd shyt.

Basically he said it was bullshyt but if you just starting out and don't even know the terminology then yeah you can start there if you want, but worrying about that cert over a high end one.. Nah

Also my other nikka is IT.. Zero certs, I got his resume. He has like a Fiber cert but shyt even I got one of those somewhere. He was just doing cabling down in Miami after the hurricanes... banking. Depending on the direction in IT that the OP wants to go and his current understanding about computers, he might not need to take that shyt. That was his question. My nikka knows absolutely nothing about computers but does the fiber shyt overseas and was doing shyt now in Florida and in PR.

Hell OP could probably pass the Sec+ if he has basic computer knowledge and common sense. He could probably get all 3 comptia certs just by studying for his CCNA.

 

[At30wecashout]

We don't even know if they got what it takes to pass an A+ but from MY own personal opinion and the fact that I been doing IT for over a decade, my mother has been doing it (and started off in IT with NO certs and doesn't even know or care wtf A+ is), A+ is not needed.

CCNA takes dedication and training... Like actually being taught by nikkas if you haven't been in IT long or just starting out. A+ isn't going to help you with shyt in CCNA because last I remember, A+ had nothing to do with networking really.. It was bullshyt.

And regardless where you start, A+ is not gonna help you in the long run.. Why waste time? and even if you start at helpdesk with a CCNA, you only gonna be there for the MINIMUM amount of time.

shyt if you just study CCNA you could probably still pass the A+.

My homie got his CCNA and was working helpdesk a year ago, no experience. He just hit me on Linkedin where he moved into a manager role at another company and already got a raise. He grinded while he worked that bullshyt helpdesk job.

My mother left from being a cop to IT like 20 years ago.. Started working helpdesk with no certs. She did that CCNA shyt with OUR mentor (because he trained me as well) and it took her about a year of grinding. No background in IT... Once she got her CCNA she moved to Atlanta and ain't made under 100k ever since, still grinding, still in IT, still a shift manager, hasn't even recertified


Why waste his time? I got my A+ in school because I had too and couldn't skip over it for Net+ (like I wanted to). I interned with the guy that taught my mom for a week and he dropped me 1k just to chill at Saks Fifth Avenue headquarters in Mississippi where he was contracted at and he went through my dumbass Mike Meyers A+ book in less than an hour and told me what I needed to know and didn't need to know. I hated that fukking cert, and CCNA/Net+ was actually easier to me because it was more interesting

Idgaf about motherboards or fixing fukking printers. Idgaf about Ram, gig size, most that pc nerd shyt.

Basically he said it was bullshyt but if you just starting out and don't even know the terminology then yeah you can start there if you want, but worrying about that cert over a high end one.. Nah

Also my other nikka is IT.. Zero certs, I got his resume. He has like a Fiber cert but shyt even I got one of those somewhere. He was just doing cabling down in Miami after the hurricanes... banking. Depending on the direction in IT that the OP wants to go and his current understanding about computers, he might not need to take that shyt. That was his question.

Hell he could probably pass the Sec+ if he has basic computer knowledge and common sense.

Aiight (I did read it all, btw. I'm not a complete a$$hole.)

All I know is, I went from minimal interviews and no offers to inquiry responses and 10 job offers all off the strength of A+. Sure most were basura but thats another matter.

He can start wherever he wants, but just talking getting your resume put somewhere other than the trash, A+ apparently can get you somewhere they just "knowing things" can't.

I had connects in my company and couldn't get the internal help desk position. I inquired at a few places, sent emails direct to Hiring Managers and IT heads...nothing. Now CCNA

might get him what he wants, and thats fine, but I know for a fact one can be had much quicker than the other, and coming from that line of thinking, I back it 100%.

A+ is not just repair. Its break/fix, customer service, OS installation and troubleshooting, mobile connectivity...its more in-depth than it used to be. Obviously we all have our experiences, but I've talked to my share of people that said they didn't know most of the content that is actually tested in the more recent exam version, and they are in the industry already. I'm just saying, if he
ain't getting results he wants, maybe dropping the little bit of cash on the A+ is better than leapfrogging into unquestionably harder content in the CCNA R&S.

 

[Axolotl]

which CCNA should i get??

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Aiight (I did read it all, btw. I'm not a complete a$$hole.)

All I know is, I went from minimal interviews and no offers to inquiry responses and 10 job offers all off the strength of A+. Sure most were basura but thats another matter.

He can start wherever he wants, but just talking getting your resume put somewhere other than the trash, A+ apparently can get you somewhere they just "knowing things" can't.

I had connects in my company and couldn't get the internal help desk position. I inquired at a few places, sent emails direct to Hiring Managers and IT heads...nothing. Now CCNA

might get him what he wants, and thats fine, but I know for a fact one can be had much quicker than the other, and coming from that line of thinking, I back it 100%.

A+ is not just repair. Its break/fix, customer service, OS installation and troubleshooting, mobile connectivity...its more in-depth than it used to be. Obviously we all have our experiences, but I've talked to my share of people that said they didn't know most of the content that is actually tested in the more recent exam version, and they are in the industry already. I'm just saying, if he
ain't getting results he wants, maybe dropping the little bit of cash on the A+ is better than leapfrogging into unquestionably harder content in the CCNA R&S.

I feel you with A+. Maybe your location is just different from mines.

Yeah.. A+ is really just basic bare IT shyt. Not my style, might not be OP's. I don't care about helpdesk work AT ALL. And it's actually easier now (at least to me) because my other nikka was legit going to another school for it and I was just skimming the book. The new one got things where technology has advanced and changed but there was all this extra dumb shyt you had to know back in the day (like the fukking history of all the different windows OS's, form factors, motherboards, etc).. Dumb shyt at least to me personally

Like I said, my mom started and leapfrogged to CCNA while just working helpdesk. Once she got Certifiefd our entire life changed for us.

I see A+ has also changed your life as well.. Thats dope honestly, but depending on OP's current knowledge and current direction he wants to take his career, A+ might actually be a turnoff like it was to me and others.... I actually stopped doing shyt in IT once I got that cert. A few years later I went to the military where it helped since I was familiar with some of the questions for ITs but studying for the CCNA made all that shyt a breeze (except Windows certs which are trash)

Good shyt to know but not everyone starts there or thinks it's necessary

And honestly, having a cert in anything is probably gonna get you job offers. He could skip all this shyt altogether and just go into cabling and installation. Go to a school, get a cert in cabling or some shyt, intern or work a bs starter job and increase from there. Cabling doesn't require a lot of technical knowledge (but you still got to know detailed shyt).

 

[O.T.I.S.]

which CCNA should i get??

Routing and switching probably

But actually watch some YouTube videos or a few Udemy classes. If you not good with logical thinking then IT isn't for you period.

 

[TripleAgent]

It's pre-require for the rest of CompTIA, so if you don't , all the rest are cut off. If you don't already have experience with everything on it, I would go and get it. It's a good foundation to build off of if you're light on experience and formal training. Plus, it's easy, and good to get an entry level position to build experience with.

 

[kenreid0726eabos]

and go straight into getting a more specialized cert instead???

yas the tech life 21st century

 

[Axolotl]

I feel you with A+. Maybe your location is just different from mines.

Yeah.. A+ is really just basic bare IT shyt. Not my style, might not be OP's. I don't care about helpdesk work AT ALL. And it's actually easier now (at least to me) because my other nikka was legit going to another school for it and I was just skimming the book. The new one got things where technology has advanced and changed but there was all this extra dumb shyt you had to know back in the day (like the fukking history of all the different windows OS's, form factors, motherboards, etc).. Dumb shyt at least to me personally

Like I said, my mom started and leapfrogged to CCNA while just working helpdesk. Once she got Certifiefd our entire life changed for us.

I see A+ has also changed your life as well.. Thats dope honestly, but depending on OP's current knowledge and current direction he wants to take his career, A+ might actually be a turnoff like it was to me and others.... I actually stopped doing shyt in IT once I got that cert. A few years later I went to the military where it helped since I was familiar with some of the questions for ITs but studying for the CCNA made all that shyt a breeze (except Windows certs which are trash)

Good shyt to know but not everyone starts there or thinks it's necessary

And honestly, having a cert in anything is probably gonna get you job offers. He could skip all this shyt altogether and just go into cabling and installation. Go to a school, get a cert in cabling or some shyt, intern or work a bs starter job and increase from there. Cabling doesn't require a lot of technical knowledge (but you still got to know detailed shyt).

1 more question, should i take the A+ 220- 901 or 220-902?