My number one problem with the faux deep

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So you lowered your standards :lolbron:

Joke aside, I get what you mean and my post wasn't aimed at people like you. You're not pretending or being dismissive to 'lower forms of music' while consuming said lower forms of music.
lol, and I feel you.

at one point in time I thought all trap shyt was hot garbage, but when I began to really listen to the lyrics it's clicked inside my mind, Trap rappers might not be super technical with lyrics like Nas or eLZhi, but you can relate to just about most of the trap rappers, especially living in the inner city.

Music = expression. I like anything that's authentic and genuine. even the negative shyt.
 

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I don't know about that . . but I don't like faux deep people either. True genius is in simplicity, being able to deduce something complex into something that's universally understandable rather than being faux-intelligent so you can appeal to people who are impressed by three syllable words


Furthermore, I don't care to hear about your struggles. I find zero entertainment in that.
 

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I don't know about that . . but I don't like faux deep people either. True genius is in simplicity, being able to deduce something complex into something that's universally understandable rather than being faux-intelligent so you can appeal to people who are impressed by three syllable words


Furthermore, I don't care to hear about your struggles. I find zero entertainment in that.

:what:

Black music (especially hip hop) is all about struggle.
 

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Black music (especially hip hop) is all about struggle.
Black music . . (and a lot of music for that matter) . . is about sharing a feeling. Fun

I'm not too familiar with ASAP Rocky but I'm sure he's not talking about his struggle too much, nor is Drake

I'm not concerned with every artist's struggles of yesteryear
 

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Black music . . (and a lot of music for that matter) . . is about sharing a feeling. Fun

The Black experience is very little 'fun'. I'm just confused at how you don't wanna hear someone's struggles. That's like saying you don't wanna hear about life. And we're talking about hip hop, which is the quintessential struggle music.

I'm not too familiar with ASAP Rocky but I'm sure he's not talking about his struggle too much, nor is Drake

I'm not concerned with every artist's struggles of yesteryear

Rocky raps about struggle more than Drake. Drake's never had a song like "Demons" and never will. We're not just talking content. The more important part is the vibe itself. Rocky's stuff is full of struggle.
 

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The Black experience is very little 'fun'. I'm just confused at how you don't wanna hear someone's struggles. That's like saying you don't wanna hear about life. And we're talking about hip hop, which is the quintessential struggle music.



Rocky raps about struggle more than Drake. Drake's never had a song like "Demons" and never will. We're not just talking content. The more important part is the vibe itself. Rocky's stuff is full of struggle.

I'm sure there's aspects of struggle in the hip-hop I listen to but I might just be looking at it from a different perspective

When I hear Suga Free talk about pimping I'm hearing power and a deeply rooted self-confidence, I'm not thinking about the economic struggle that resulted in him to get into pimping.

I listen to Suga Free, DJ Quik, Mac Dre and Gucci Mane

I like Slick Rick and RZA

I grew up listening to Tupac, Dr. Dre, NWA, Eazy-E, Ice Cube . . there's a lot of aspects of struggle in their music that I acknowledge and these were great songwriters making these songs. I still listen to Tupac sometimes and to a lesser extent Dr. Dre and Eazy-E's solo work but I don't want to hear one of those "My Life" songs where the struggle of childhood, problems at home, and getting by in the streets is the main theme

I want to hear the unadulterated ignorance of Gucci Mane, because nobody does that better than him

I want to hear the wit of Mac Dre and Suga Free, the character in their deliveries and the humor of the things they say. This exemplifies the epitome of what I admire in rap these days, I can hear it in the work of 2 Chainz, Nicki Minaj and sometimes Drake. I can trace it's roots back to Slick Rick and Shock G. That's what I like.

And although I'll rarely become a fan of a new artist I like seeing the song that everyone hates because it became a breakout hit for an artist who was unknown yesterday but has managed to go viral. I like looking at that song and trying to understand what the appeal is and how it caught on, even if I could never see myself bumping it in my free time.


I like music, I'm really not turned to struggle. I'd rather hear Jay Z rap about the inner-workings of a business deal than an attempt to appeal to the struggle that every human deals with. I guess you could say music can be an escape from the mundane aspects of reality, and I don't want to escape my struggles to listen to somebody else's and I'm not going to listen to the music and identify and embody the struggle of others. I would rather embody someone else's success
 

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I'm sure there's aspects of struggle in the hip-hop I listen to but I might just be looking at it from a different perspective

When I hear Suga Free talk about pimping I'm hearing power and a deeply rooted self-confidence, I'm not thinking about the economic struggle that resulted in him to get into pimping.

I listen to Suga Free, DJ Quik, Mac Dre and Gucci Mane

I like Slick Rick and RZA

I grew up listening to Tupac, Dr. Dre, NWA, Eazy-E, Ice Cube . . there's a lot of aspects of struggle in their music that I acknowledge and these were great songwriters making these songs. I still listen to Tupac sometimes and to a lesser extent Dr. Dre and Eazy-E's solo work but I don't want to hear one of those "My Life" songs where the struggle of childhood, problems at home, and getting by in the streets is the main theme

I want to hear the unadulterated ignorance of Gucci Mane, because nobody does that better than him

I want to hear the wit of Mac Dre and Suga Free, the character in their deliveries and the humor of the things they say. This exemplifies the epitome of what I admire in rap these days, I can hear it in the work of 2 Chainz, Nicki Minaj and sometimes Drake. I can trace it's roots back to Slick Rick and Shock G. That's what I like.

And although I'll rarely become a fan of a new artist I like seeing the song that everyone hates because it became a breakout hit for an artist who was unknown yesterday but has managed to go viral. I like looking at that song and trying to understand what the appeal is and how it caught on, even if I could never see myself bumping it in my free time.


I like music, I'm really not turned to struggle. I'd rather hear Jay Z rap about the inner-workings of a business deal than an attempt to appeal to the struggle that every human deals with. I guess you could say music can be an escape from the mundane aspects of reality, and I don't want to escape my struggles to listen to somebody else's and I'm not going to listen to the music and identify and embody the struggle of others. I would rather embody someone else's success

To each his own :yeshrug:I appreciate the explanation :salute:
 

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