Mysonne Says Having Morals, Values And Principles Is More Important Than Making Money

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Health (sound mind and body) is actually the most important thing.

If you have millions of dollars but you're sick as shyt, laying on your deathbed, how important is that money REALLY to you? :youngsabo:


definitely true, but to quote the great Sammy Davis Jr..."I want to live, not merely survive". Or to be more current, "I'd rather die enormous than live dormant" - Jay z. The healthy homeless man with nothing is already dead anyway, just breathing. And not that this matters every time, but the filthy rich sick man has access to the best doctors and medicines on earth. Ask Steve Jobs, wealth could have bought health, but he refused the treatments for whatever reasons.
 

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But in our hyper materialistic and vanity chasing culture

This statement will be met with disgust :wow:
 

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nothing is more important than money. a wise man once said "Money isn't everything....but it's way ahead of whatever's in second place"

if there were no such thing as bills, and rent, and crying babies who need food and to be clothed, then yes, i would agree with mysonne 1000%

Not family? Loyalty? Self Respect? Integrity? If you REALLY believe that then there's really no limit to what you'll do. Jesus, MLK, Malcolm etc didn't have alot of money, Nor did they live long lives, but their vision and dedication to helping people made them great men. Contrast that with a millionaire who never did sh*t for anybody and dies at 80. Who's life can we look at and say was more important?
 

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Not family? Loyalty? Self Respect? Integrity? If you REALLY believe that then there's really no limit to what you'll do.

how are you going to eat with no money? where are you going to live? how are you going to provide for your wife and children? look at this from a primal pov bro, i understand why you, and mysonne, are saying what you saying but its not realistic. you can live without all those things you just listed, correct? maybe you will be an a$$hole, not so nice of a person, but you can live.. but you can not live without money. i guess you can, hypothetically, if you plan on living like our Hominin ancestors in the savannas. hell, even in Ghana they are making $350 a year, you can't even live there son, smh. financial success and sound morals are not mutually exclusive, btw.
 

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Damn...everytime I see something about Mysonne I always assume he just got out of prison recently....then I listen to this and he's actually been out since '06 :dwillhuh: ...dude's been out for 7 years, and his whole entire story is still framed around "i was signed...i was about to be that dude, but then i got locked up"...this nikka's interview was depressing..i ain't trying to hear them "prison knowledge" struggle-rapper anecdotes about how "authentic" he is and his thoughts on money and morals :pachaha:...like the reason why his rap career ain't shyt is because he's too morally upright and noble
 

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how are you going to eat with no money? where are you going to live? how are you going to provide for your wife and children? look at this from a primal pov bro, i understand why you, and mysonne, are saying what you saying but its not realistic. you can live without all those things you just listed, correct? maybe you will be an a$$hole, not so nice of a person, but you can live.. but you can not live without money. i guess you can, hypothetically, if you plan on living like our Hominin ancestors in the savannas. hell, even in Ghana they are making $350 a year, you can't even live there son, smh. financial success and sound morals are not mutually exclusive, btw.



That last sentence is a great point. I guess if you're looking at it from the perspective of absolutes where a person will never have access to ANY form of currency at all then I get your point but I don't think that's really what Mysonne or anybody is talking about. In practical society people make decisions where their want for more $$ (Ie , beyond what's absolutely necessary to maintain basic life) and their integrity conflict and Myse is saying he'd keep is integrity.

tTo frame the discussion differently, say you have two people, 1 lives below the poverty level, but is intelligent, kind, and has integrity. The second is super rich, dumb as rocks, no morals or principles. I'd say guy number 1 has the ADVANTAGE. His intelligence will allow him to gain money, and his morals will let him use it responsibly. Guy number 2's ignorance will most likely cause him to lose his fortune eventually and his lack of integrity will lead him to abusing what he has and possibly hurting others. If I was guy number 1 and had to trade my intelligence for guy number 2's money, I wouldn't. Would you?
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
definitely true, but to quote the great Sammy Davis Jr..."I want to live, not merely survive". Or to be more current, "I'd rather die enormous than live dormant" - Jay z. The healthy homeless man with nothing is already dead anyway, just breathing. And not that this matters every time, but the filthy rich sick man has access to the best doctors and medicines on earth. Ask Steve Jobs, wealth could have bought health, but he refused the treatments for whatever reasons.


The wealthiest nations in the world also have the highest rates of depression and suicide. Once you let the idea that money is the end all be all run your mind you will never be happy. Also, you said everyone needs money and that isn't true, there are hundreds of thousands of Americans living off the grid with subsistence lifestyles.
 

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The wealthiest nations in the world also have the highest rates of depression and suicide. Once you let the idea that money is the end all be all run your mind you will never be happy. Also, you said everyone needs money and that isn't true, there are hundreds of thousands of Americans living off the grid with subsistence lifestyles.

It definitely isn't everything and I agree that if you base your life on it you'll end up unhappy but in the world we live in not having it can cause unhappiness when it's a struggle just to get by.
 

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Yes money is needed to basic survival necessities, but anything more than that is luxury and becoming attached to material things and monetary wealth is a quick way to become miserable. While money has its importance, making it your primary importance is disastrous. Our society is predicated upon the notion that one's worth as a human being is contingent upon their bank account balance and the material things they have. Being a good person, being selfless, finding peace in who you are and loving others rather than hating them is the most important thing, as it brings you true happiness, not to mention it makes the world a better place. Does having more money and spending it on luxurious things you don't need so that you can fulfill some temporary desire make the world a better place or make you truly happy, no
 

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That last sentence is a great point. I guess if you're looking at it from the perspective of absolutes where a person will never have access to ANY form of currency at all then I get your point but I don't think that's really what Mysonne or anybody is talking about. In practical society people make decisions where their want for more $$ (Ie , beyond what's absolutely necessary to maintain basic life) and their integrity conflict and Myse is saying he'd keep is integrity.

tTo frame the discussion differently, say you have two people, 1 lives below the poverty level, but is intelligent, kind, and has integrity. The second is super rich, dumb as rocks, no morals or principles. I'd say guy number 1 has the ADVANTAGE. His intelligence will allow him to gain money, and his morals will let him use it responsibly. Guy number 2's ignorance will most likely cause him to lose his fortune eventually and his lack of integrity will lead him to abusing what he has and possibly hurting others. If I was guy number 1 and had to trade my intelligence for guy number 2's money, I wouldn't. Would you?

i would... i mean lets stop kidding ourselves with this nonsense

first off mysonne was talking about making a choice... and this is some rapper/street shyt... if i had to make fake ass music to sell records, or make my real shyt and be where i'm at... well then i'm gonna make my real shyt

or if i was gonna go to jail or snitch.. i'd keep it real and go to jail...



but this nikka ain't rapping for free.. he wants a fukking deal.. and if sony stepped to him with a mil, he'd take it all the way to the bank. so really, he just lying.. or making a small statement about his music, and y'all are actually putting this statement to real life


who would i rather be... "oh i'd rather be some smart intelligent teacher making 30k a year and influencing the kids" NO nikka... i'd rather be dumb ass paris hilton. spending 1k on ice cream with gold flakes, knowing my kids will have kids that have kids that have kids that won't be working.. all because my daddy's daddy's daddy put in that work. i won't have to do shyt.. listen to nobody.. want for a damn thing in life and neither will my ancestors... because i have money..

yea i'll take that over me being super smart with debt to leave my kids... who had to grow up in the projects cause i wanted to be noble



but rarely is the choice this or that.. like someone else said.. who said you have to sacrifice your morals in order to make money??? mysonne?? nikka make hit records and we wouldn't be having this discussion.. better yet if he never got locked up, and had his deal go right, would he even be talking like this
 
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