Nancy Pelosi worries Trump won't leave office if he loses 2020 election

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Let’s be real. RBG isn’t making it far past 2020. If the Kochs and Falwell hive have the opportunity to sew up a Conservative Supreme Court, the Midwest will be back in play.

Just cause Trump doesn’t know how to stay on message, don’t think that means the machine behind him doesn’t know of to get Midwest Republicans to vote against their interests.

How can they convince non Trump supporters to vote for Trump?
 

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How can they convince non Trump supporters to vote for Trump?

You don’t need to be a Trump supporter to vote Republican.
It’s just a matter of finding a reason for them to throw turn against their best interests. Like using black people to stigmatize welfare despite the fact more white people are on welfare.

Remember Roy Moore didn’t lose cause Republicans turned on him in mass. Democrats came out in high enough numbers to squeak out a victory.
 

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You don’t need to be a Trump supporter to vote Republican.
It’s just a matter of finding a reason for them to throw turn against their best interests. Like using black people to stigmatize welfare despite the fact more white people are on welfare.

Remember Roy Moore didn’t lose cause Republicans turned on him in mass. Democrats came out in high enough numbers to squeak out a victory.

SO basically, higher voter turnout in 202 than 2016 means that Trump is basically shot :mjgrin:
 

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OP is quoting the wrong line from the article. Pelosi isn't actually afraid of Trump staying in office, it's just the bullshyt scare tactic she's trotting out to try to keep people from supporting non-establishment candidates. With the mind-blowing lack of awareness that Dems blinding supporting the establishment candidate is exactly how Trump got elected in the first place.
Bullshyt.

Bernie isnt pushing impeachment.
 

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WI, MI, PA, MN, and even IA are lost by Trump. Even in OH, more people lost faith in Trump. If voter turnout is high like in 2008 in the 2020 elections, Trump gets bodied with the quickness. Voter suppression, thanks to those Dem governors in the Midwest, probably won't be a problem. Trump only has the deep south to save him.
don't put too much stock in the mid term results

it didn't really matter in 1996 & 2012
 

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OP is quoting the wrong line from the article. Pelosi isn't actually afraid of Trump staying in office, it's just the bullshyt scare tactic she's trotting out to try to keep people from supporting non-establishment candidates. With the mind-blowing lack of awareness that Dems blinding supporting the establishment candidate is exactly how Trump got elected in the first place.
Bullshyt.

Bernie isnt pushing impeachment.

Yes, bullshyt, correct. Do you have something to say or are you just angry that I called her out on her obvious bullshyt?

And was your second sentence a response to someone else I have blocked? I don't see what relation is has to what I posted at all.
 

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don't put too much stock in the mid term results

it didn't really matter in 1996 & 2012
I'm not sure those are completely relevant examples. Democrats tend to do better the bigger the turnout. So it's not surprising that they sometimes fare poorly in lower-turnout midterms and then rebound in higher-turnout presidential elections.

But when the Democrats do well in a lower-turnout midterm, the higher-turnout presidential year should work even better for them.

I checked for the last time there has been a Democratic wave during a midterm. Looks like 2006 (gained 32 house seats), 1974 (gained 49 house seats), 1958 (gained 49 house seats). All three times there was a Republican in the presidency when it happened, and all three times the Democratic candidate (Obama, Carter, and Kennedy) won two years later.

Not a huge sample size but there's really no evidence to suggest that big Democrat gains in midterms don't lead to Democrat presidential wins.
 
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