Albums Nas & DJ Premier - Light-Years (Discussion Thread)

[perfectblack999]

"My man Dion (No ID) said Nas overthinks the songs he writing."

I think about that bar a lot and you can definitely hear it. On Writers there's a part where he shouts out the Made You Look crew and then says btw I named a song after them in 02. Ok? I think it may be the product of not writing, and heavily punching in while rapping. You can hear that all over this record due to the mix/engineering. Speaking of which I don't think Eddie Sancho is anywhere on this album. Parks did a track and there are some other engineers on there too. And guess who Parks' boss is: Premo's manager, Ian. Oh and who is getting the exclusive interview. Joe Budden.

Not to go off on a tangent (ironic lol) but it def feels like we just witnessed a manager heavily influence a project, keep costs down, and funnel as much business to his other clients as possible to get paid on the front and back end.

I think about this line all the time. Posters are right when they say post LiG, Nas isn’t as detailed or vivid. It gels like he stopped “overthinking” concepts and just got to rhyming. A lot of songs don’t have a cohesive vision verse to verse like they used to.

Also, this may be reaching, but I felt like Nas used to read a lot of put those readings into his bars. I feel like I don’t hear that nearly as much anymore.

I’m sure poster are gonna dislike this take, but it’s just my thoughts and speculation. All of this said, he still currently raps better than 95% of rappers out there so it’s fine with me.

 

[Grand_Verbalizer]

Writers is one of the purest tracks of like the last quarter century, No lie or stanism .

 

[spliz]

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Them Titties

She fine as fukk. Always said that. lol.

 

[Ziggiy]

Honestly if Premo pulled the shyt that @Piff Perkins saying I can see why Nas don’t fukk wit certain OG producers cause so far he got burned by Marley Marl, Pete Rock and now it would be Premo. This is what was dope about Hit Boy cause him and Nas was genuinely enjoying making music together. And it wasn’t too many hands in the pot. Literally just them two and whatever feature was on a track at the given moment.

Nas & Premo were in the Bahamas together crafting the majority of the album. Nas would know EVERYTHING Preme was doing beat/production wise so if Nas was cool with how the production was crafted then everybody is going to have to deal with it.

Nas approved these crop of beats and wrote and spit to them. Its not in anyway comparable to Marley Marl going behind Nas back and putting other artists on songs that were supposed to be exclusively for his sophomore album, and then leaking the songs. Its not comparable to Pete Rock bytching for a decade because he wasn’t included on It Was Written (and then threatening to sue 30 years later)

THIS is the album Nas wanted to make. And he’s obviously proud of the results or it would never have seen the light of day.

 

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[DrexlersFade]

Nasty Nas Esco is grimey as fukk.

I really don’t know what dudes want out of an album like this.

shyt got my face screwed up the whole time

That's the one right there I can't stop spinning that son is the Don

 

[dizzy4111]

Salute to Sacha Jenkins

 

[spliz]

Nas & Premo were in the Bahamas together crafting the majority of the album. Nas would know EVERYTHING Preme was doing beat/production wise so if Nas was cool with how the production was crafted then everybody is going to have to deal with it.

Nas approved these crop of beats and wrote and spit to them. Its not in anyway comparable to Marley Marl going behind Nas back and putting other artists on songs that were supposed to be exclusively for his sophomore album, and then leaking the songs. Its not comparable to Pete Rock bytching for a decade because he wasn’t included on It Was Written (and then threatening to sue 30 years later)

THIS is the album Nas wanted to make. And he’s obviously proud of the results or it would never have seen the light of day.

I’m not comparing them in the same way. What I’m saying is that if Premo didn’t put his best foot forward in favor of preserving or saving money it’s still fukked up. Nas can only work with what he’s presented with.

 

[Why-Fi]

taught some of y'all the how to dress but some of y'all still a mess

 

[ItWasWritten]

Yall talking about Premiere didn’t use samples to keep the money down so they can save on publishing

You know how many times a song has to get streamed for you to see some money ? Think snoop said he did a billion streams and got a check for 45 thousand - they are not worried about no damn publishing on these records … this isn’t the 90s or early 2000s … why you think puff gave everybody they publishing back … he know that shyt ain’t worth anything

Nas just put time and money into several other hip hop acts, promoting and all that

I’m sure premiere could of used whoever he wanted and the fee woulda been paid

On top of that , according to many posters here … Preem been trash for like 20 years …

Don’t try to paint a picture of him being cheap, he just washed right now.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Nas & Premo were in the Bahamas together crafting the majority of the album. Nas would know EVERYTHING Preme was doing beat/production wise so if Nas was cool with how the production was crafted then everybody is going to have to deal with it.

Nas approved these crop of beats and wrote and spit to them. Its not in anyway comparable to Marley Marl going behind Nas back and putting other artists on songs that were supposed to be exclusively for his sophomore album, and then leaking the songs. Its not comparable to Pete Rock bytching for a decade because he wasn’t included on It Was Written (and then threatening to sue 30 years later)

THIS is the album Nas wanted to make. And he’s obviously proud of the results or it would never have seen the light of day.

It's the album Nas wanted to make but my point is that it SEEMs like it was set up to be a certain way. So yea they all went to the Bahamas but the plan was already in place: live band and limited samples, drum kits, here's a bassist I know (who probably has the same manager), oh and when we're done we're going on Budden's show. That doesn't sound off? Maybe they agreed on all that from jump. But it just seems weird to me.

 

[up in here]

Nas & Premo were in the Bahamas together crafting the majority of the album. Nas would know EVERYTHING Preme was doing beat/production wise so if Nas was cool with how the production was crafted then everybody is going to have to deal with it.

Nas approved these crop of beats and wrote and spit to them. Its not in anyway comparable to Marley Marl going behind Nas back and putting other artists on songs that were supposed to be exclusively for his sophomore album, and then leaking the songs. Its not comparable to Pete Rock bytching for a decade because he wasn’t included on It Was Written (and then threatening to sue 30 years later)

THIS is the album Nas wanted to make. And he’s obviously proud of the results or it would never have seen the light of day.

Exactly. Cats coming up with all types of different versions and reasons why them not liking this album is somehow entirely on Primo and not on Nas.

This is Nas album on Nas label, he approved of everything on the album. If you don't like it, that's on Nas and Primo. But Nas liked it enough to put it out.

As for me. I'm loving this joint. It's cohesive. Its dark. It feels like early 90s reinvented. Nas was spitting. Primo got the drums banging. Some abstract shyt. Some conceptual joints. Some straight spitting joints. It's fire.

Yes the Hit-Boy joints were more varied, and that's ok. I loved the KD-Magic run. That shyt was phenomenal. But that's not what this is and it's not what this needs to be.

This is Nas and Primo. This sounds like Nas and Primo. Hate it or love it.

And I don't want to hear none of these alternate mixes y'all cats trying to put together, I don't need that shyt. shyt is already flames.

 

[Lonj]

the strings here are immaculate. This would be the best beat on the album, and it would have been elevated once u swapped Westside vocals for Nas'

Sons is a close 2nd tho

People would have been going crazy if this beat was on Light Years.

 

[L. Deezy]

Exactly. Cats coming up with all types of different versions and reasons why them not liking this album is somehow entirely on Primo and not on Nas.

This is Nas album on Nas label, he approved of everything on the album. If you don't like it, that's on Nas and Primo. But Nas liked it enough to put it out.

As for me. I'm loving this joint. It's cohesive. Its dark. It feels like early 90s reinvented. Nas was spitting. Primo got the drums banging. Some abstract shyt. Some conceptual joints. Some straight spitting joints. It's fire.

Yes the Hit-Boy joints were more varied, and that's ok. I loved the KD-Magic run. That shyt was phenomenal. But that's not what this is and it's not what this needs to be.

This is Nas and Primo. This sounds like Nas and Primo. Hate it or love it.

And I don't want to hear none of these alternate mixes y'all cats trying to put together, I don't need that shyt. shyt is already flames.

This .

Well said

 

[Ziggiy]

It's the album Nas wanted to make but my point is that it SEEMs like it was set up to be a certain way. So yea they all went to the Bahamas but the plan was already in place: live band and limited samples, drum kits, here's a bassist I know (who probably has the same manager), oh and when we're done we're going on Budden's show. That doesn't sound off? Maybe they agreed on all that from jump. But it just seems weird to me.

Nas is a 52 year old veteran whose literally running his OWN record label. You think Premo and Ian masterminded some nefarious musical money saving scheme under his nose? Premo, whose literally been BEGGING to make this album for 20 years?

Ya’ll coming up with Oceans 11 script theories because ya’ll not feeling the album is insanity lmao. You’re entitled to not like it, hell you’re entitled to hate it, but you can’t give Nas a pass and hate on Premo. This is the album THEY wanted to make and Nas liked the beats and spit to them. Just like he picked the beats for the Hit-Boy albums. He’s literally the BOSS. None of this goes down without his say so.