Albums Nas & DJ Premier - Light-Years (Discussion Thread)

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And this argument about who's realer and more hip-hop than the next person in regards to THIS album ain't even that serious.

I don't give a fukk if Kool Herc hates this album. I fukk with it HEAVY, way more than any of the Hit-Boy projects (only one of those I fukk with is KD2, which I love, but has more skippable tracks to me).

I don't have to pull somebody's bboy card if they're not feeling this album, but I do find it odd how people were constantly shytting on Premier and anything golden era adjacent in every Nas/Hit-Boy album thread, and then swear up and down anybody liking this album is coping or lying. That criticism doesn't seem genuine moreso than just following a predetermined narrative some people have attached themselves to because of their own identity crisis over aging.
 

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Nas wanted to put Em on Daughters but Eminem said he had done so much Hailey bars he didn't want to go back to that well.

He also said that Em was appreciative of the fact that Nas reached out to him for a real content song and not a “bar-for-bar” battle verse like most rappers want when they call him.
 

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By the 3rd listen, a few joints really stuck:

Madman
Writers
Young Kings
My Story Your Story
Junkie
Shine Together

Nas’s writing detail/rapping is just :banderas:. Easily has at least another 5 albums in him.

When I look at this through the lens of Nas & Preme’s ode to the era of Hip-Hop they came of age in, I’m not mad at it. That said…I do NOT need another one of these. Bring back Hit-Boy…bring Alchemist with him.

Was happy to hear in the Joe Budden interview he & AZ are trying to link for a full Esco/Sosa EP. That will be fire.
the 2nd half of the album is where it shines imo. It's a solid I disagree with ALC I rather Havoc
 

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I like KD2 better than this album. I still can't decide if Light Years is better than the rest. KD3 is great, maybe that's on par with this one. This is definitely better than KD1

Magic 1 might be better but I don't adore it like everyone else...I also don't hate Magic 2 like everyone else, but it was the weaker one. Magic 3 is dope but kinda inconsistent

That said, Wave Gods is kinda what I was hoping for on this one and it's still better than this whole album lol
 

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Yeah, I'm not seeing how Premier using sounds from an understudy like Marco Polo adds value to the project beyond saving on sample costs...

He'd rather sample whiteboy arrangements than the type of records (jazz/funk/soul) that inspired this album??

It doesn't make sense to me...

Again, still enjoying the project but this is making a lot of sense as to why the beats sound the way they do

To be fair I have too much respect for Marco Polo to call him some white boy. He's a legend, I respect him. My issue is twofold. I vividly remember nikkas clowning Hit Boy for sample packs during the KD run. Especially when he'd have horns in tracks. I vividly remember Pete Rock laughing about the sound being an imitation of the real thing. Even on this forum there was discussion about it. Can't remember the track but Hit Boy sampled a very basic, super common pack for one of the horns and dudes gave him a lot of shyt for it.

I don't fukk with most sample packs, which is why I can't stand a lot of modern Griselda shyt (Beat Butcha). I will say when it comes to white boys, Alchemist and Jake One have good drum kits. But it gets to my second issue: I don't think the sound translates well in a lot of rap music because it sounds static and lifeless. It rarely sounds like musicians are naturally jamming and being recorded - instead it sounds like guys are standing around playing what they think will work for rap. It's very glaring on this album. Like that AZ track where it seems like they're trying to interpolate/riff off some Nautilus type shyt and it just sounds lame as fukk. That's a Polo sample pack btw.
 
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