intilectual recipricol
Killin fake hip hop
You cant ignore the truth loc. Try to ignore the sun, that shyt still gon shine bright... my truths are like rat poison to the naS stan soul...
naS Illmatic XX sales...
- Thread starter intilectual recipricol
- Start date
intilectual recipricol
Killin fake hip hop
Yes, F&LII bricked, but it sold almost 90K the 1st week. illmatic xx sold 12,087 (I added one because this thread reminded one stan to buy a copy). You do the math...Food & Liquor II bricked
dirty_yo
hired help
ZEB WALTON
ayo! - BEZ
illmatic is the most overhyped album all time
still great tho. but yea, it never lived up to the talk about it sales wise
still great tho. but yea, it never lived up to the talk about it sales wise
intilectual recipricol
Killin fake hip hop
Boolean
APIDTA
he has a grammy tho
b-b-b-but nas been nominated 13 times, cacs just won't let him in
dirty_yo
hired help
I guess he's in good company with cacklemore and cacyan lewishe has a grammy tho
... 
You sir...are a professional....
fakkit
intilectual recipricol
Killin fake hip hop
Lupe Fiasco Wins Grammy for Daydreaming Ft. Jill ScottI guess he's in good company with cacklemore and cacyan lewis
Nas Speaks on Never Winning a Grammy
Foxmulder
Superstar
This nikka comparing a 20 year old album re-release to lupe's last album.
intilectual recipricol
Killin fake hip hop
You would love for fillermatic xx to be a re-release without a whole 2nd disc of material and remastered... sadly though, it is not.
dirty_yo
hired help
Grammys have historically disrespected Hip Hop for over two decades but its no surprise since the voting committee are 99% CaC
Proof: CaClemore wins a grammy
Which other CaC favourite won a grammy: Lupe CaCsco
Foxmulder
Superstar
Aight breh.Lets see who sells more of their next album Lupe or Nas.Since you love to talk about sales.
intilectual recipricol
Killin fake hip hop
like the typical naS stan, you have no clue what any part of the discussion is. I am not surprised by this at all as naS stans have shown to be lacking in the thought department.
There are no albums that I claim influenced every rapper or changed the game completely. So whether or not Lupe sold plat or not is irrelevant. the point is that illmatic didnt do the things naS' idiot stans claim it did, it wasnt as big as naS stans claim it was/is. The sales show that it wasnt big at all and basically ignored outside of east coast magazines.
Albums that actually had influence and changed the game are albums like Paid in Full, N4L, The Chronic, AEOM... you can actually see those albums influence on the genre. not no fukkin illmatic
ok, when it comes to sales i can see what @intilectual is getting at, but let's not act like the album did not influence.
say what you will, but not many albums get bought for 7, 15,20 years straight!
no way you can dispute the importance of the album.
let me just end this thread already!!!!
Legacy and influence
East Coast hip hop
Illmatic was critical in restoring interest in East Coast hip hop, particularly New York's hip hop scene.
Illmatic has been noted as one of the most influential hip hop albums of the mid-1990s, with pundits describing it as an archetypal East Coast hip hop album.[3][89] Jeff Weiss of Pitchfork magazine writes: "No album better reflected the sound and style of New York, 94. The alembic of soul jazz samples, SP-1200s, broken nose breaks, and raw rap distilled the Henny, no chaser ideal of boom bap."[20] Citing Illmatic as part of a string of notable albums released in 1994, David Drake of Stylus Magazine writes "This was the critical point for the East Coast, a time when rappers from the New York area were releasing bucketloads of thrilling work".[100] John Bush of Allmusic compares Illmatic to another DJ Premier production, The Sun Rises in the East (1994), as "one of the quintessential East Coast records".[13] Along with the critical acclaim of the Wu-Tang Clan's debut album Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993) and the success of The Notorious B.I.G.'s debut Ready to Die (1994), Illmatic was also instrumental in restoring interest in the East Coast hip hop scene. "Rarely has the birthplace of hip-hop," wrote Rob Mariott of Complex, "been so unanimous in praise of a rap record and the MC who made it."[51] As Nas later recounted: "It felt amazing to be accepted by New York City in that way...at the time a lot of West Coast hip-hop was selling; East Coast wasn't selling as much, especially for a new artist. So back then you couldn't tell in the sales, but you could tell in the streets".[101]
Hip hop artists
Many respected mainstream and underground rappers have acknowledged Illmatic's influence. These wide range of artists include the battle rappers, SunN.Y.[116] and Reef The Lost Cauze,[117] conscious rappers Talib Kweli[118] and Lupe Fiasco,[119] the producers Just Blaze[120] and 9th Wonder,[121] as well as the platinum-selling artists Wiz Khalifa,[122] Alicia Keys[123] and The Game, who makes references to the album on his debut, The Documentary[124] In 2006, Illmatic was featured in a list of acclaimed hip hop albums, compiled by Clipse. Malice, a member of the hip hop duo, claimed: "Illmatic captured the whole New York state of mind for me. It embraced everything I knew New York to be. The album had 10 songs, all of them flawless. Me and my homies got great memories of rolling around listening to that, huslin', smokin', chillin'. That embodied everything that was right with hip-hop. That CD never came out my deck."[89] Speaking in 2012, British producer, DJ Semtex described Illmatic as "an exemplary album of perfection that forced the evolution of lyricism and production values within hip hop. Eighteen years later it remains omnipotent."[125]
In 2006, Marc Mac of the electronic music duo 4hero, produced a cover version of "The World Is Yours" as part of his jazz and hip-hip fusion project, The Visioneers. Lyrics from Illmatic have also been sampled by other rappers, most notably Big L's "Ebonics" (which samples "It Ain't Hard to Tell"), Milkbone's "Keep It Real" (which samples "Life's a bytch"), Real Live's "Real Live shyt" (which samples "It Ain't Hard to Tell"), Damu the Fudgemunk's "Prosper" ft. Raw Poetic (which samples "N.Y. State of Mind"), Blu & Exile's "In Remembrance" (which samples "The World Is Yours" and "One Love"), Mac Miller's "Nikes On My Feet" (which samples "The World Is Yours") and Jay-Z's "Rap Game/Crack Game" (which samples "Represent") and "Dead Presidents II" (which samples "The World Is Yours").
say what you will, but not many albums get bought for 7, 15,20 years straight!
no way you can dispute the importance of the album.
let me just end this thread already!!!!
Legacy and influence
East Coast hip hop
Illmatic was critical in restoring interest in East Coast hip hop, particularly New York's hip hop scene.
Illmatic has been noted as one of the most influential hip hop albums of the mid-1990s, with pundits describing it as an archetypal East Coast hip hop album.[3][89] Jeff Weiss of Pitchfork magazine writes: "No album better reflected the sound and style of New York, 94. The alembic of soul jazz samples, SP-1200s, broken nose breaks, and raw rap distilled the Henny, no chaser ideal of boom bap."[20] Citing Illmatic as part of a string of notable albums released in 1994, David Drake of Stylus Magazine writes "This was the critical point for the East Coast, a time when rappers from the New York area were releasing bucketloads of thrilling work".[100] John Bush of Allmusic compares Illmatic to another DJ Premier production, The Sun Rises in the East (1994), as "one of the quintessential East Coast records".[13] Along with the critical acclaim of the Wu-Tang Clan's debut album Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993) and the success of The Notorious B.I.G.'s debut Ready to Die (1994), Illmatic was also instrumental in restoring interest in the East Coast hip hop scene. "Rarely has the birthplace of hip-hop," wrote Rob Mariott of Complex, "been so unanimous in praise of a rap record and the MC who made it."[51] As Nas later recounted: "It felt amazing to be accepted by New York City in that way...at the time a lot of West Coast hip-hop was selling; East Coast wasn't selling as much, especially for a new artist. So back then you couldn't tell in the sales, but you could tell in the streets".[101]
Hip hop artists
Many respected mainstream and underground rappers have acknowledged Illmatic's influence. These wide range of artists include the battle rappers, SunN.Y.[116] and Reef The Lost Cauze,[117] conscious rappers Talib Kweli[118] and Lupe Fiasco,[119] the producers Just Blaze[120] and 9th Wonder,[121] as well as the platinum-selling artists Wiz Khalifa,[122] Alicia Keys[123] and The Game, who makes references to the album on his debut, The Documentary[124] In 2006, Illmatic was featured in a list of acclaimed hip hop albums, compiled by Clipse. Malice, a member of the hip hop duo, claimed: "Illmatic captured the whole New York state of mind for me. It embraced everything I knew New York to be. The album had 10 songs, all of them flawless. Me and my homies got great memories of rolling around listening to that, huslin', smokin', chillin'. That embodied everything that was right with hip-hop. That CD never came out my deck."[89] Speaking in 2012, British producer, DJ Semtex described Illmatic as "an exemplary album of perfection that forced the evolution of lyricism and production values within hip hop. Eighteen years later it remains omnipotent."[125]
In 2006, Marc Mac of the electronic music duo 4hero, produced a cover version of "The World Is Yours" as part of his jazz and hip-hip fusion project, The Visioneers. Lyrics from Illmatic have also been sampled by other rappers, most notably Big L's "Ebonics" (which samples "It Ain't Hard to Tell"), Milkbone's "Keep It Real" (which samples "Life's a bytch"), Real Live's "Real Live shyt" (which samples "It Ain't Hard to Tell"), Damu the Fudgemunk's "Prosper" ft. Raw Poetic (which samples "N.Y. State of Mind"), Blu & Exile's "In Remembrance" (which samples "The World Is Yours" and "One Love"), Mac Miller's "Nikes On My Feet" (which samples "The World Is Yours") and Jay-Z's "Rap Game/Crack Game" (which samples "Represent") and "Dead Presidents II" (which samples "The World Is Yours").