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Lyricism

Nas' lyricism on Illmatic has been compared by music writers to that of eminent rapper Rakim.[5][110]
During the time of its release, Illmatic brought a renewed focus on lyricism to hip hop—hearkening back to the heyday of Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane, and Rakim.[5][14] Music journalist Kelefa Sanneh of The New York Times wrote of Illmatic, stating that Nas "perfected a dense, rat-a-tat rhyme style that built upon the legacy of 1980s pioneers like Rakim and Big Daddy Kane."[88] In his book To the Break of Dawn: A Freestyle on the Hip Hop Aesthetic, William Jelani Cobb writes of Nas' impact on lyricism and the comparisons to eminent rapper Rakim at the time:

Nas, the poetic sage of the Queensbridge projects, was hailed as the second coming of Rakim—as if the first had reached his expiration date. [...] Nas never became 'the next Rakim,' nor did he really have to. Illmatic stood on its own terms. The sublime lyricism of the CD, combined with the fact that it was delivered into the crucible of the boiling East-West conflict, quickly solidified [his] reputation as the premier writer of his time.[110]

Despite its initial low sales, the album had a profound impact on the hip hop underground circuit, and marked a major stylistic change in hip hop music by introducing a new standard of lyricism.[38] Before the album's release, hip hop lyricism was mostly defined by two popular forms. One was characterized by a fast-paced ragga-flow accompanied with a whimsical, often nonsensical lyrical delivery, and had been popularized by the Brooklyn-based groups Das EFX and The Fu-Schnickens.[111] The other was characterized by a slurred "lazy drawl" that sacrificed lyrical complexity for clarity and rhythmic cadence, and was exemplified by West Coast hip hop emcees including Snoop Doggy Dogg and Warren G.[112] However, Nas' content, verbal pace, and intricate internal rhyme patterns inspired several rappers to modify their lyrical abilities.[5][14] Music critic Rob Marriot notes, "[R]appers like Mobb Deep, Tragedy Khadafi, Nature, Cormega, Noreaga, Capone, Raekwon, Ghostface, and even the Windy City wordsmith Common seemed to find new inspiration in Nas' self awareness, internal rhyme schemes, and mastery of street detail."[51] Mariott also describes the impact of Illmatic's "poetic approach" on Jay-Z, writing: "The Brooklyn MC switched his style up from his fast-talking Jaz-O days enough to produce Reasonable Doubt, an album marked by Nas-like introspection..."[51]

Many rappers have taken note of Illmatic's influence on their lyricism. Ghostface Killah recounted, “When I used to listen to Nas back in the days, it was like, ‘Oh shyt! He murdered that.’ That forced me to get my pen game up. . .The whole Illmatic album forced you to go ahead and do shyt . . .It was inspiration." [113] Detroit rapper Elzhi states, "[A]round the time Nas did Illmatic, it made me wanna step my game up. . .He's one of the reasons I did go off into storytelling because his pictures were so vivid. When he displayed his rhyme schemes and his word play and his songs, it made me wanna create visual pictures as well."[114] Casey Veggies also recounts the impact Nas' lyricism had his own work as an underground rapper in the 2000s: “I [got into] Illmatic when I was 14, 15. I didn’t get onto to it till late, but when I did, that's probably the only thing I listened to for six months to a year...After I got heavy on Illmatic, I put out Sleeping In Class (2010). That's when I really tried to sharpen my skills and get better.”
 

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like the typical naS stan, you have no clue what any part of the discussion is. I am not surprised by this at all as naS stans have shown to be lacking in the thought department.

There are no albums that I claim influenced every rapper or changed the game completely. So whether or not Lupe sold plat or not is irrelevant. the point is that illmatic didnt do the things naS' idiot stans claim it did, it wasnt as big as naS stans claim it was/is. The sales show that it wasnt big at all and basically ignored outside of east coast magazines.

Albums that actually had influence and changed the game are albums like Paid in Full, N4L, The Chronic, AEOM... you can actually see those albums influence on the genre. not no fukkin illmatic :mjlol:
:stopitslime:Yeah ok.You saw all the love illmatic got for the last month and was:mad::fire::angry:And this thread is the result.

Yo let me let y'all Nikkas know one thing,there's one life,one love so there can only be one king.:king::ahh:
































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2014 album sales still being relevant :sas1:



wouldn't buy a reissue though
 

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With a better album cover it could at least have sold twice that.
 

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my bad 7 years it came out in 94. add 7 years to 94 thats 2001 right.

how does the "greatest hip hop album off all time" take 7 years to go platinum

:snoop:

The certified dates on RIAA.com have nothing to do with when the album ships gold/plat/whatever. The records are certified when the label pays for the certification....that's the date you see on RIAA. If the label doesn't pay, the album could ship 10 mill, it will have 0 certs on that site. Or, it could ship plat, if the label doesn't pay for it's certification until 5 years later, that will be the date it's certified. Not when it shipped, RIAA don't give a fukk about that until they get paid.

Fred.
 

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:what: Why y'all take this shyt seriously?

Units or not a 20 year old album made it in the top 20 last week still and even ended outselling the likes of Rick Ross for the week. Most people have the album on mp3 or one of the other editions.

To me its great seeing Nas being celebrated for that first album.

As far as sales go, Jay and Nas benefited from the battle because if recall both Reasonable Doubt and Illmatic went platinum after Stillmatic and Blueprint. Thats why I always think Nas had more of a career after Illmatic, he made one of the most critically acclaimed albums but still went on to have a career after that and still seems to be doing for an artist that long in the game :manny:
 
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