Nas - King’s Disease (Discussion Thread)

[ReggieFlare]

This shyt hard

 

[Surreal]

Our challenge is holding ourselves back, I hope you felt that

 

[ISO]

Yea. On the real, Reasonable Doubt being a classic is rewriting history. It wasnt a thing until Jay got big around In My Lifetime Vol. 2.

Classics are made in time not upon drop.

The definition of classic is judged over a period of time to be of high quality.

Reasonable Doubt is the definition of classic.

Vol. 2 dropped only 2 years after stop it lol.

 

[ISO]

I put Jay over Nas after 4:44 lol

This album is nice but Jay had verses of the year on Neverending Story and Universal Soldier

 

[Ty-Fife]

Classics are made in time not upon drop.

The definition of classic is judged over a period of time to be of high quality.

Reasonable Doubt is the definition of classic.

Vol. 2 dropped only 2 years after stop it lol.

nikkas was calling GKMC a classic as soon as it dropped though...

 

[Prolific_1011]

I put Jay over Nas after 4:44 lol

This album is nice but Jay had verses of the year on Neverending Story and Universal Soldier

Nah

 

[ISO]

Nah

Nah what

 

[Figaro]

I put Jay over Nas after 4:44 lol

This album is nice but Jay had verses of the year on Neverending Story and Universal Soldier

I like Jay's verse on Universal Solider but his shyt wasn't better then Elecs on that, b...stop that, flowed better yes but lyrically that was Jay Elecs best verse on the whole album....

 

[ISO]

nikkas was calling GKMC a classic as soon as it dropped though...

That was that media push

I do believe some works of art can be instant classics tho

 

[ISO]

I like Jay's verse on Universal Solider but his shyt wasn't better then Elecs on that, b...stop that, flowed better yes but lyrically that was Jay Elecs best verse on the whole album....

DuPonts and Carnegies lines>>

 

[Figaro]

DuPonts and Carnegies lines>>

Jay Elec made me visual a short movie with his

 

[mobbinfms]

That was that media push

I do believe some works of art can be instant classics tho

GKMC was a media push?
Interesting you would argue that since Jay obviously pushed RD starting with Vol 2.

 

[Surreal]

Jay has no classic, genre changing albums

 

[ISO]

GKMC was a media push?
Interesting you would argue that since Jay obviously pushed RD starting with Vol 2.

Kendrick is a media and industry darling with massive push yes

That doesn’t take away from his album it’s true tho

 

[Piff Perkins]

That was that media push

I do believe some works of art can be instant classics tho

That had nothing to do with the media or label. Interscope thought the album would under perform, Dre wasn’t sold on Kendrick as a star, and no one at the label understood that he had a fan base built already.

I also remember the GKMC thread here. Virtually everyone here thought it was a classic because it’s an amazing album. That’s not a push, that’s a natural real time recognition of greatness.

Reasonable Doubt was overlooked in real time, in 1996. It was well received in NY but wasn’t some big hit or deal. Even Hov admitted to that. Doesn’t mean it’s not a classic.