Nas - King's Disease III (Discussion Thread)

[Ziggiy]

 

[Mike the Executioner]

2010 was the last time I felt like Kanye was an elite producer. Since then, it's like he's just been there. And no, I don't see Kanye as a producer in the sense that I see Dre or a Timbaland because even if there are co-producers, you can still hear their signature drum work.

Even with Daytona, while dope, the production is dope because it sounds like 2002-2004 Kanye. With, It's Almost Dry, I'm still scratching my head that people even thought that Kanye's production on that album was better than The Neptunes. Pusha T naturally sounds better over The Neptunes production than he does anyone else's.

I think Kanye's last project in his prime was Watch the Throne. That's the last time he had that focus and consistency to match his ambition. It's been diminishing returns ever since.

I remember liking his production on Dark Sky Paradise, but I haven't listened to that album in a long time. I used to think he should go back to being a full-time producer because he still had the skills for it. Then 2018 happened.

By the way, he's credited as a co-producer on "Industry Baby" but what did he even do on that song?

 

[Nostalgic]

I’ve never truly understood how “sales” work nowadays either. Nas has the number 1 album over Taylor Swift, Drake & 21 London, Bruce Sprinsteen, and The Black Panther Soundtrack. Physicals available on his website. Number 2 on Amazon. And yet he’s only projected to 8K in “pure” sales?

Number 4 on Apple Music. Top 5 on Spotify. And that translates to only 28k?

Just weird.

Overall I never cared about album sale.

Album sales can never judge how good (Or bad) an album is......IMO I think 2004 was the last year were you could have somewhat a legit argument about if "John Doe" outsold "Jimmy Doe" it meant "John Doe" was the better artist. Still then that really didn't hold much weight because at the end it all boils down to opinions.

 

[spliz]

I just wanted my son to sell atleast 50k to shut the haters up. I don’t really care about sales myself.

 

[Rayzah]

Haven’t had time to read through this or listen to the album yet.
What’s the consensus on here?
How does it compare to the last 3 recent albums?

This is the best of the series to me, I really like this album and I didn’t love the first two. This one is makes me feel like 96 again with the way he rapping and the beats are the best of the trilogy. 4/5 easy

 

[John Mexico]

Idgaf about sales.

They doing it at this point out of respect and cache. They're on an independent.

As far as the album, I'm good off the Serious Interlude. That's literally my least favorite subgenre of rap outside of dissing the dead songs. Hard to care about the subject matter as a listener. It's the only one I'm considering trimming.

 

[T.he I.nformant]

Nas floated on it.

Honestly I know people are praising this album everywhere but more needs to be spoken about how good Nas is rhyming on this. The flow, the rhyme schemes, the swag, the punchlines, the humour. He put on a rap clinic from start to finish.

A masterclass

 

[RoseWooD]

I just wanted my son to sell atleast 50k to shut the haters up. I don’t really care about sales myself.

at thinking selling 50k would "shut haters up"...... that's not how hate works my boy lol

 

[prophecypro]

I think they got too confident with no promo cause they did that with KD 2 and it beat KD 1 first week (But I always felt like maybe the Eminem stimulus had something to do with it). Magic's numbers I sorta disregarded cause it was surprise over christmas wasnt gonna stream high and had no physical purchase until 4 months later.

I was looking at this year and people similar to Nas (and really everyone other than Drake and Future) had underperformed, but yeah crushing result.

Oh well, at least album is good

 

[HNIC973]

I just wanted my son to sell atleast 50k to shut the haters up. I don’t really care about sales myself.

nothing will shut them up fam. I checked a nikka on twitter yesterday that said Nas never sold 400k 1st week like 21. I Am sold 470K in 99 when that nikka was still using training wheels

 

[spliz]

I think they got too confident with no promo cause they did that with KD 2 and it beat KD 1 first week (But I always felt like maybe the Eminem stimulus had something to do with it). Magic's numbers I sorta disregarded cause it was surprise over christmas wasnt gonna stream high and had no physical purchase until 4 months later.

I was looking at this year and people similar to Nas (and really everyone other than Drake and Future) had underperformed, but yeah crushing result.

Oh well, at least album is good

nikka also fukked up not putting out any videos ahead of time as well. YouTube streams count too I believe. Either way. It is what it is.

 

[spliz]

nothing will shut them up fam. I checked a nikka on twitter yesterday that said Nas never sold 400k 1st week like 21. I Am sold 470K in 99 when that nikka was still using training wheels

I feel u.

 

[spliz]

at thinking selling 50k would "shut haters up"...... that's not how hate works my boy lol

U right. Lol.

 

[kes929]

When I look at the grand scope of everything, the numbers aren’t great but for today they aren’t horrible. No radio play, no promo, no industry support, no features, no video, independent. Even the more mainstream acts sold 20 and 30k. Pure support from those that ride with Nas. Yet he produced the best album this year effortlessly. I’m proud of being a Nas fan and I always continue that support.

 

[prophecypro]

nikka also fukked up not putting out any videos ahead of time as well. YouTube streams count too I believe. Either way. It is what it is.

This is sort of the other side of the precieved freedom Nas has with being independent. All through the recent months that fan account did go on spaces and stress that just because Nas has enough money to never record again, doesnt mean its not expensive for him to drop an album especially with Mass Appeal being carried by him (at least the US division not India). So while he might be saving money with less and less promo each album, it also hurts visibility and perception