Nas "Lost Tapes" >>> TPAB

[Budda]

You hipsters are something else, this is rap I can give a fukk about how many more instruments kendrick producer is producing on tpab, hip hop grew out of being an alternative genre to the Pop mainstream, how many times you hear rock and jazz fans try to discredit rap because of a lack of musicality compared to the most talented artists in those genres. But who cares a key part of rap is poetry and the fact our artists exhibit a level of depth in their lyricism that you don't find in those genres

 

[Budda]

On that note I like Tpab, but regardless of how funky it sounds Lost tapes is better lyrically and as a complete rap album. Give me Doo Rags over King Kunta every day. Artists like Outkast Mos Kanye Kendrick and before then Tribe Calked Quest, De La Soul pushed rap music conceptively and artistically but be careful not to push this genre to left field where these are the only type of artists who get praise and it turns to a hipster paradise which shuns other types of rap music, rap music was built on grungy beats made in basements which weren't neccesarily nest sounding musically. TPAB is a great rap album with funk influences, Lost Tapes a more darker jazz influenced album, both are great pieces of work on opposite sides of the rap spectrum, like chronic and illmatic, they can be great at the same time.

 

[spliz]

"She give all to her daddy but she don't know her father"

>>> Blaze a 50

fukk OUTTA here...

 

[The Ruler 09]

TPAB was great. But I'm sorry guys the 2nd verse from Doo Rags outshines anything Kendrick said on the album.

That gentle piano loop, the nostalgia….all just comes together so well.

Political thugs in shark suits persuade us to pull triggers
In army boots, yelling "Join the armed forces!"
We lost the Vietnam War, intoxicated poisons
Needles in arms of veterans instead of bigger fortunes
There's still a lot of nikka crawling in the corporate offices
War in the ghetto, we crabs in a barrel, they torture us
They won't be serving the beast too long
The murderers wearing police uniforms, Confederate flags I burn
Beat Street breakers were dancing to the music I chose
And Peachtree, Atlanta crackheads was tooting they nose
In frozen corners of Chicago, loaded up Llamas, children
With fo'-fo's, and double-revolvers
We devil incarnates, headed for jail
Where Shell gas company in South Africa be having us killed
Your paper money was the death of Christ
And all these shorties coming up just resurrect your life
It's like a cycle

I mean. Actually read that. Listen to what he's saying.

Yeah Doo Rags was a great song, better than every Kendrick song to me, Nas has masses of songs better than any Kendrick song to me. Nas really is an elite level artist.

 

[The Ruler 09]

On that note I like Tpab, but regardless of how funky it sounds Lost tapes is better lyrically and as a complete rap album. Give me Doo Rags over King Kunta every day. Artists like Outkast Mos Kanye Kendrick and before then Tribe Calked Quest, De La Soul pushed rap music conceptively and artistically but be careful not to push this genre to left field where these are the only type of artists who get praise and it turns to a hipster paradise which shuns other types of rap music, rap music was built on grungy beats made in basements which weren't neccesarily nest sounding musically. TPAB is a great rap album with funk influences, Lost Tapes a more darker jazz influenced album, both are great pieces of work on opposite sides of the rap spectrum, like chronic and illmatic, they can be great at the same time.

Word, we need that hardcore shyt too, everything don't have to be overproduced, or eclectic sounding, I like grimey raw stripped down beats too, I can appreciate all different types of shyt, something isn't automatically better cause it's experimental, Illmatic was more of a strip down sound and it was and is a classic, just a head nodder, Return Of The Boom Bap was BOOM BAP to the fullest and a GREAT album,, easily better than every Kendrick album, in every way, beats, rhymes, content, this is why I can't give Kendrick huge props, everything he's done has been done better already, would rather listen to Tribe to be honest. Nas did a more experimental sounding album in DR to me and was MUCH better and a true classic. The hype machine in my opinion making people lose their minds in a Hip Hop sense. I clicked the King Kunta video earlier and heard the song again and my thoughts were, if this beat was given to someone else someone would rip it, song is ok... but it reminds me a bit of an Eminem type single, beat is kind of banging, especially when the melodies come in, reminds me of some Pac or DJ Quik shyt, but Kendrick over it? He ain't impressing me at all over it. If he was rhyming more potently I'd feel it much more, he has some ok stuff in it, in bits, but it sounds manufactured, little catchphrases like "black man take no losses" to catch people, but what does this MEAN? If you are obsessed with Eminem, a rapper who calls black people ******s and boasts about not liking ****** shyt but trying to make a bigger hit, then you obsess over him, that is a loss, and as Kendrick is a black man, he's taking a loss. Chronic is easily better to, Kendrick's shyt is just average to me.

 

[The Ruler 09]

You hipsters are something else, this is rap I can give a fukk about how many more instruments kendrick producer is producing on tpab, hip hop grew out of being an alternative genre to the Pop mainstream, how many times you hear rock and jazz fans try to discredit rap because of a lack of musicality compared to the most talented artists in those genres. But who cares a key part of rap is poetry and the fact our artists exhibit a level of depth in their lyricism that you don't find in those genres

Exactly, fukk all that, I don't care about none of that shyt, is it a good song? Does it sound good? These Hipster types are the issue, anyone who talking about "critical acclaim" like a mindless propaganda drown is annoying as fukk and not Hip Hop, if that's the primary thing you go to and cling to then you don't know Hip Hop, we don't REALLY give a fukk about that shyt.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Not everything has to be a genre fuse, it waters down Hip Hop, we need some straight Hip Hop shyt, beats, rhymes and content.

 

[The Ruler 09]

that Nastradamus actually aged well,thy twas such a Nasir fan i een bumped Nastradamus back then more then i ever bumped a Kendrick Lamar..

New World 1st verse twas almost right on point with the future,2nd half of 2nd verse too..

Family,God Love Us,Primo joint,joint with Nashawn(is dude still spittin/alive?)were hard too..

Don't know who said it first but we pretty much said the same thing.

 

[diggy]

I'd rather listen to lost tapes

 

[Dragonfly Jones]

Kendrick is kendrick

Nas is Nas, goat

Comparing anything he does to Kendrick is like comparing anything Michael Jordan does to Kevin Durant

Yes, Durant is dope but MJ is MJ

and for the record, none of these new dudes have surprised Nas yet....not Kendrick, not Lupe, not J cole...not whoever. Dude was 27 yrs old at the height of the Jay Z battle and had already been considered a legend in the game by then.

These cats are the same age and older and people still look at em like relatively new artist

 

[Versa]

Cac reviewers brainwashed some of y'all into thinking an album where an artist just raps supremely well over dope beats isn't good enough. Pathetic.

The funny thing is when people praise an album for being more experimental and blending different genres while condemning an artist for being strictly hip hop, they are essentially saying the pure art form of great rapping isn't good enough to be praised which in itself indirectly says hip hop as a genre isn't special on it's own without help. It's basically like when self hating negros only acknowledge black women when they are mixed with other ethnicities. You're saying black women by themselves aren't good enough.

I'm by no means saying that TPAB isn't incredible. It is. Just telling y'all simple nikkas how dumb you look when you say shyt like "illmatic/lost tapes/etc is just better lyrically", like rhyming at a vastly superior level over great beats isn't a good enough accomplishment. Maybe some people prefer Nas's elite talent at rapping over George Clinton features, Kendrick's funny voice alterations and jazzy instrumentals.

 

[TheJet]

http://genius.com/Nas-no-ideas-original-lyrics

This thread made me realize how ridiculous this joint is

 

[The Ruler 09]

I notice nobody's explained how Nas doesn't practise artistry?

 

[The Ruler 09]

Cac reviewers brainwashed some of y'all into thinking an album where an artist just raps supremely well over dope beats isn't good enough. Pathetic.

The funny thing is when people praise an album for being more experimental and blending different genres while condemning an artist for being strictly hip hop, they are essentially saying the pure art form of great rapping isn't good enough to be praised which in itself indirectly says hip hop as a genre isn't special on it's own without help. It's basically like when self hating negros only acknowledge black women when they are mixed with other ethnicities. You're saying black women by themselves aren't good enough.

I'm by no means saying that TPAB isn't incredible. It is. Just telling y'all simple nikkas how dumb you look when you say shyt like "illmatic/lost tapes/etc is just better lyrically", like rhyming at a vastly superior level over great beats isn't a good enough accomplishment. Maybe some people prefer Nas's elite talent at rapping over George Clinton features, Kendrick's funny voice alterations and jazzy instrumentals.

Bolded are some very good points. Very similar to what I was saying too.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Also don't act like MC'in, lyrics aren't a part of artistry.