Nate Parker Is Disappointed In Black People

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I got love for Nate Parker. I support him and will support this film. But did anyone hear ol girl on Tariq's show Sunday said he seems a little c00nish to marry the women that keep getting his ass in trouble. Going with Fox (the same company bringing Bill Oreilly) instead of the brutha man Byron Allen. And as Tariq mentioned a company like Fox will buy your shyt just to shelve it.


I ain't mad but I gotta admit Nate signing that movie with FOX is the reason for all this shyt. I seriously doubt this would've happened going with Byron Allen

As Black person I'm kind of disappointed with NP.

Totally agree
 

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The statement from four former Penn State students expresses their disappointment with "the gross and blatant misinformation campaign regarding the events that took place during that time period."

Four members of the Penn State community have released a statement in support of Birth of a Nation director Nate Parker and co-writer Jean McGianni Celestin, who have been at the center of controversy based on Parker's recent statements about a rape accusation that both faced in college.

"We were present during the entire trial and ultimate exoneration of both Mr. Parker and Mr. Celestin. At the time, we were college students, staff and alumni who were deeply involved with countering the violently hostile racial climate that thrived in the Penn State community," says the lengthy statement from LaKeisha Wolf, Dr. Assata Richards, Lurie Daniel Favors and Brian Favors.

In 1999, Parker and Celestin, both wrestlers at Penn State, were accused of rape by a female classmate. Parker was acquitted at trial while Celestin was found guilty, but his conviction was overturned on appeal. The trial transcripts have been shared in the media in recent weeks as the release of The Birth of a Nation nears, and Parker recently spoke out about the case. It also was recently revealed that the accuser killed herself in 2012.



READ MORE'Birth of a Nation' Director Nate Parker's College Rape Accuser Is Dead


The open letter, first posted on The Root, goes on to list several points about the case and issues with "the gross and blatant misinformation campaign regarding the events that took place during that time period."

"We believed some 17 years ago that Jean Celestin and Nate Parker were innocent of rape and we believe that now," the statement adds.



The full statement is below.

Who We Are and Why We’re Making This Statement

We are members of the Penn State community who were present during the time when Nate Parker and Jean McGianni Celestin were accused and charged with the rape of a fellow Penn State student. We were present during the entire trial and ultimate exoneration of both Mr. Parker and Mr. Celestin. At the time, we were college students, staff and alumni who were deeply involved with countering the violently hostile racial climate that thrived in the Penn State community [pdf]. Today, we are educators, lawyers, professors, academics and entrepreneurs who are actively engaged in community development and advancing social justice. Since our time at Penn State we have dedicated our lives to doing the healing and restorative work for our community and will continue to do so.


We have received several requests for comment on this matter by a wide array of parties and media outlets seeking additional information from people who witnessed the trial and were present during the time leading up to and after the trial. While we have refrained from making public statements, in light of recent media reports, we feel compelled to release this statement. To be clear: We are both dismayed and disappointed at the gross and blatant misinformation campaign regarding the events that took place during that time period. We feel compelled to speak truth to this situation as the media has cherry-picked the most salacious elements while ignoring the actual record.

Our goal in speaking out is to provide accurate information about what really took place during that time. We also hope to encourage our community to embrace as vibrant of a discussion about misogyny, misogynoir and toxic masculinity, as we do about racism and white supremacy.

It is important to note that as a group of people deeply involved in this case, we were saddened to learn of the death of the young woman involved from news reports last week. Even as we make this statement, we are deeply respectful of the pain and loss of her family and friends. We do not and cannot ignore the deep pain that this case, and so many like it, brings to everyone involved.

We believed some 17 years ago that Jean Celestin and Nate Parker were innocent of rape and we believe that now. This belief was supported by the evidence that eventually fully cleared both Mr. Celestin and Mr. Parker. Evidence that many media outlets have chosen to ignore, overlook or mischaracterize today.

Our belief in and support of Mr. Celestin and Mr. Parker was validated when we witnessed how racially biased the investigators were throughout the years leading up to the trial. This investigation took place during a time period of intense racial hostilities both on and off campus (which you can read more about in depth here [pdf]).

The trial was one of the longest non-murder trials in the history of the area. Here are a few key points related to the investigation and the trial:

1. The woman making the claim was a white college student and the criminal trial was decided by 11 white jurors and one black woman in Centre County, Pa. Nate Parker was fully acquitted at trial and Jean Celestin was wrongly convicted on one charge which he later successfully appealed.

2. Despite what’s been widely reported, Jean Celestin ultimately served nearly two years in prison while he fought to clear his name. His conviction was later reversed by the Pennsylvania Superior Court of Appeals and he was fully exonerated. The court that reversed Jean Celestin’s conviction overturned less than 15 percent of all the convictions appealed [pdf] in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania that year.

3. Witnesses were threatened by the investigators who were trying to build a case against Mr. Parker and Mr. Celestin. As a result of those threats, some witnesses (including one of the undersigned) had to seek legal protection from the very investigators charged with finding the facts.

4. A key prosecution eyewitness changed his statement several times after being threatened and coerced by police investigators.

5. The allegations of torture, stalking and intimidation of the woman involved in the case are absolutely untrue. Neither Mr. Parker, Mr. Celestin, nor any members acting on behalf of the Black Caucus ever stalked or harassed the young woman. As a routine part of the university and police investigation into this matter, both Mr. Parker and Mr. Celestin had bail orders that barred them both from certain parts of campus and from approaching the young woman involved. Had those orders been violated, both would have been arrested before their criminal trial. Neither the Black Caucus leadership, nor the group’s academic adviser was ever contacted about any supposed harassment of the young woman by black student members.

6. From the date of their arrest until after their trial, both Mr. Parker and Mr. Celestin were under strict bail conditions to have absolutely no contact with the young woman. Had they violated that order, their bail would have been revoked. Claims of harassment were used to support a civil suit filed against Penn State University for payment after the criminal case. Neither Mr. Parker nor Mr. Celestin were named in the civil lawsuit, neither Mr. Parker nor Mr. Celestin were ever interviewed or contacted about that civil suit — nor were they able to defend themselves in that suit and were not aware of its existence until it was settled.

7. Contrary to repeated inaccurate media reports, there is nothing to suggest that the ruling had anything to do with prior intimate contact with the young woman involved. The jury made no mention of this when they rendered their verdict. The jury’s decision was based on prosecution and defense witnesses and evidence in the court record that indicated that the young woman was both conscious and engaged during the evening in question.

8. Misinformation suggests that a spiral into depression was triggered by the alleged incident in 1999. However, court records and testimony by medical professionals revealed a history of chronic depression that dated back to childhood and the use of antidepressant medication that preceded this event.

9. Publications and the public have relied heavily on partial excerpts of one recorded phone call. There were multiple recorded transcripts calls. These multiple calls, in their entirety, were played in court for the jury to consider and to provide proper context to the narrative.

10. Celestin and Mr. Parker have always maintained that what happened that evening was consensual and never hid from the complexities of this even when they were facing more than 20 years in prison. Mr. Parker has spoken about this case dating as far back as 2008. Mr. Celestin wrote a memoir about his experience after he was exonerated which he plans to publish. He has spoken about his experience in the community for more than 10 years.
Copies of the relevant court documents that support the claims contained in this letter are located atfactchecktoday.


It is unfortunate but still necessary to state that some of us are women who have survived sexual violence. We know that rape and sexual violence are rampant throughout our society. We also know that our society does not typically engage in discussions around this topic in ways that challenge notions of toxic masculinity. We know that most rape survivors never come forward because of how rape culture can prevent us from receiving justice.

Also, some of us also have family members who were wrongfully convicted of crimes they did not commit — including those who were falsely accused and convicted of rape charges. Family members who spent decades in prison before being released. We recognize that racism and white supremacy have historically combined around notions of sexuality and at times have created climates where lynch mob mentalities resulted in the destruction of entire black communities and black lives. Many of us viewed this incident involving Mr. Celestin and Mr. Parker as yet another example of the blatant racism and violent hostility faced by black students on Penn State’s campus. We ask that you read more about that time period here [pdf] to better understand the racial terror we faced.

Our belief in Mr. Celestin and Mr. Parker’s innocence was validated as we sat through the court trial, heard all of the evidence and witnessed a justice system that was trying its best to lock both men up for as long as possible. But that system couldn’t bury them completely. The facts that spoke to their innocence, and the community that was unwilling to allow two additional young black men to be wrongfully convicted of something they did not do, would not allow it.

While we were deeply disappointed with the personal choices in this matter, we stood with and supported Mr. Celestin and Mr. Parker then because we believed they were innocent of the crimes of which they were charged. Our disappointment also stems from our belief that far too many young men participate in patriarchal, misogynistic structures without consideration of the long-term implications. We acknowledge that we can be disappointed and desire that they had not been in that room, while recognizing that they should not have been jailed for something that they were not guilty of. The facts of their story (in their totality — not the snippets referenced by media outlets) made sense. We made the choice to stand up and speak out against injustice some 17 years ago, and despite those who may attempt to attack or discredit us again from near and far, we are choosing to make the same choice today.

Nate Parker and Jean Celestin have never shied away from this incident and have always taken accountability — we, members of their village, required them to take responsibility. And, they have owned this incident in their personal lives and have used this moment to empower themselves to be change agents in their communities ever since. Indeed, both of them have frequently spoken about this period in their lives in an attempt to influence others in our community to make better choices and to build healthier communities.

This story is Nate and Jean’s testimony — one of growth and maturation. Though this story is a challenging one, we refused to leave them behind almost two decades ago or be silent now because we are committed to creating true justice. Indeed, we are talking about this moment in their lives precisely because this situation was not the end of their story. Now more than ever, our village will not allow their critically important and timely contributions to be derailed by a campaign of untruths or distorted perceptions. It is our hope and prayer that the outpouring of emotion and discussion that this topic has generated can ignite a process toward healing in our families and communities — a process that is so desperately needed if we are going to bring about true social change.

Sincerely,
LaKeisha Wolf, Artist & Entrepreneur, PSU Alumni
Dr. Assata Richards, PSU Alumni
Lurie Daniel Favors, Esq., PSU Alumni
Brian Favors, Education Consultant, M.Ed.; M.S.Ed, PSU Alumni
 

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While matthew mcochany and channing tatem fukking non whites and there people arent saying shyt. This crab mentality in blacks needs to be eradicated. fukking c00ns and bedwenches are the worst


Y'all throwing the word bedwench liberally when by coli militant standards nate parker is a bedbuck.

All that money he'll get from that movie will be used to coddle his white wife.

Start being consistent or u end up painting yourself in a corner:ufdup:
 

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I just read some of the documents. It didn’t seem like Nate was at fault except for telling his homie to come in the room. Now that dude is guilty. But Nate...im not so sure. He is a bed buck though.
 

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I think black people stand with him 100%. Now, c00ns and black feminists (bedwenches) are against him 100% because that's the task they've been given by white supremacist media. White supremacist send their c00ns and bedwenches to handle their business on their behalf first. And then, they join in with the attack.

But white supremacy always keeps a stable full of c00ns and black feminists (bedwenches) whose sole objective is to complete tasks on behalf of white supremacy.

Peace
 

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witnesses (including one of the undersigned) had to seek legal protection from the very investigators charged with finding the facts.

4. A key prosecution eyewitness changed his statement several times after being threatened and coerced by police investigators.

5. The allegations of torture, stalking and intimidation of the woman involved in the case are absolutely untrue. Neither Mr. Parker, Mr. Celestin, nor any members acting on behalf of the Black Caucus ever stalked or harassed the young woman. As a routine part of the university and police investigation into this matter, both Mr. Parker and Mr. Celestin had bail orders that barred them both from certain parts of campus and from approaching the young woman involved. Had those orders been violated, both would have been arrested before their criminal trial. Neither the Black Caucus leadership, nor the group’s academic adviser was ever contacted about any supposed harassment of the young woman by black student members.
 

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A black guy staring in it. They claiming Carl Weather's had a white wife in Rocky so Michael B Jordan should've been Jesse Williams complexion. They were caping for Channing Tatum.
LOL WTF?

Apollo Creed's son being Channing Tatum would be the funniest fukking shyt ever.

On some Tom Hanks being the Last nikka on Earth levels.
 

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A black guy staring in it. They claiming Carl Weather's had a white wife in Rocky so Michael B Jordan should've been Jesse Williams complexion. They were caping for Channing Tatum.

I need proof of this shyt so I can add it to the list of bedwench stupidity.
 

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Why would fox sabotage his film? Fox Searchlight distributed '12 years a slave' did they sabotage that as well? Or did they promote that film to an amazing degree.

Sadly I think some of the convos on here go off the deep end to a place where madness lays. With little understanding of the way things work in stuff like the film business.

To a writer/director film maker, Fox searchlight has an amazing record of choosing and promoting independent film and getting them into a hell of a lot of cinema screens. Which is important. And they also have a very good eye for choosing movies that find themselves in contention for the big film awards 12 years a slave,Birdman, Sideways,Slumdog Millionaire etc

From what I've seen and heard so far, 12 Years and Birth are two different films with two different narratives. One is about the horrors of slavery and playing to white guilt. The other is about the horrors of slavery and playing to the humanity of an oppressed people who decided to fight back.

12 Years a Slave is a run of the mill slave film that any white supremacist company would put out. It shows black people being brutalized without reprieve and segments of white savior imagery. A tale of black people being continual victims while the narrative wags its finger at "those bad, bad white people."

Birth of Nation rehashes an episode in America's history that many white supremacists don't even like to talk about. Much less make a movie about. It shows black people being brutalized and then deciding that they're going to repay their oppressors with death and destruction. A tale of black people being proactive in their search for freedom and willing to kill to get it.

So, I can totally understand why the media arm of white supremacy would be in favor of mass producing one narrative and shelving another.

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witnesses (including one of the undersigned) had to seek legal protection from the very investigators charged with finding the facts.

4. A key prosecution eyewitness changed his statement several times after being threatened and coerced by police investigators.

5. The allegations of torture, stalking and intimidation of the woman involved in the case are absolutely untrue. Neither Mr. Parker, Mr. Celestin, nor any members acting on behalf of the Black Caucus ever stalked or harassed the young woman. As a routine part of the university and police investigation into this matter, both Mr. Parker and Mr. Celestin had bail orders that barred them both from certain parts of campus and from approaching the young woman involved. Had those orders been violated, both would have been arrested before their criminal trial. Neither the Black Caucus leadership, nor the group’s academic adviser was ever contacted about any supposed harassment of the young woman by black student members.

That detail is very important. We all forgotten that both Parker and Celestine, due to being arrested on felony charges, would've been out on bail. If there was even a whiff of them harassing the young woman, they would've been sent to jail asap.

Funny that we've all forgotten that both Parker and Celestine were prolly out on bail. And that the media didn't bother to mention that either.
 
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