Native Tongues have more classics than Wu-Tang, Deathrow or any other crew

[Dusty Bake Activate]

You should make a thread about it breh...it won't do numbers though...unless you find a way to shyt on certified Wu classics

Nah. I didn't shyt on Wu classics here. Only in the bizarro world of the stan mental landscape is saying an album is great, you're a fan of it, but you consider it a 4.5, but not quite a 5 shytting on it.

 

[King Sun]

 

[feelosofer]

Love De La, but they don't have 3 UNIVERSALLY considered classics. Black Sheep album is not a classic. Neither is Jungle Brothers.

I would say De La has 3 unarguable classics maybe 4.

3 Feet High
De La Soul is Dead
Buhloone Mindstate (arguable)
Stakes is High

I would also throw in The Grind Date.

As to the OP's point it depends on what you define as the Native Tongues, does that include just the main group or are we including secondary members, such as Mos Def, the Pharcyde, Beatnuts etc.

If you're going by core members, I may have to say it's pretty close to even, and I may give the hat to the Native Tongues.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Wait a second. Were counting jungle bros and blscksheep as classics but not clienetele. Supreme clientele is THE cult classic of the 2000s. No debating that.

Liquid swords is most defintely classic if some of those albums are counting

Lol none of that shyt is. Wu stan weirdos imploding?

 

[The Dust King]

You don't know what in the bloody black hell I've heard, cuzz...

which RZA album is classic in your opinion?

I know for a fact you didnt hear all the albums i was referencing. I was def not right with the % though. Ill list em later.

bobby digital dope but digital bullet is classic

I'd love to know what makes "Forever" a classic, I don't think there's an album I've TRIED to like more (including just now due to this this thread)
Word to kid that mentioned the intro which features one of my main problems with the LP, those weak ass drums that are all over the album.
You got tracks like Severe punishment and Deadly Melody which try to revisit that classic 36 sound but lack all the grime and grit, True masters Heaterz is probably the grimiest beat on the whole shyt.

There's definitely some standouts (Bells of war, triumph, reunited, it's yours, a better tomorrow) and not too much flat out wack shyt but a gang of mediocrity imo but still the as far as lyrics / performance the clan def came correct .

I remember many were disappointed with this lp then RZA said something about cats not getting it till 10 years later and plenty of ran with that narrative, It's still ok at best to me.

Wow i havent heard this opinion in quite the longest. I dont agree in the slightest but i respect it. I kno some who felt the same way about it was written.

It's time for ol' boy to jump to another site...

Lol gtfoh

isnt this comparing a collective to a group instead of comparing groups? i would only compare wu to de la soul or tribe. native tongues would need to be compared to the entire wu family including groups like killarmy, black knights, sunz of man, etc.

I made a comprehensive list of all members a few pages back

Why are we leaving Kanye out of Native Tongues?

Hmm your actually right.

Leaders of the new school
Queen Latifah
Monie love
Chi Ali

Native tongue afiliates correct?

Yes. I made a comprehensive list a few pages back of all wu and native members

So is Common and Pharcyde but we're keeping it to core members.

Native tongues is family you makin rules up

Fu Schnickens got a classic!? Killah Priest has 3? you are amazingly generous with your classic ratings lol

Lol i rather be "loose" with the term then be like the rest of the world who swears out of 50 million recorded hiphop albums that only 20 are classic

He isn't.

Actually he is. Its a fact.

 

[Walt]

Actually a good thread but i dont trust the premise since the OP is a known troll.

Wu wins but either way its close

Native tongues VS Wu-Tang

Tribe has 4 classics
Jungle brothers got 2
De la soul has 4
Blackstarr got 1
Mos def got 1
Talib got 1
Brand nubian has 2
Beatnuts got 2
Fu schnickens got 1
Queen has 2
Blacksheep got 1
Common got 4
Roots got 3

Wutang has 6
Meth has 1
Deck has 1
Odb has 1
Masta killa has 1
Gza has 1
Ghostface has 4
Raekwon has 2
Rza has 1
Killaarmy got 1
Sunz of man got 1
Killah priest got 3
Shabazz got 1
Gravediggaz got 1
Cappa got 1
Black market got 1
Thug Angels got 1
Force MDs got 2
Shyheim got 1
Bronze nazareth got 1
La the darkman got 1
Mathematics got 2

A lot of wild shyt on this list, but the bolded legit had me burst out laughing. I'm over here damn near in tears off some of these. Dude just said fukk it, everything's a classic.

 

[TEH]

He isn't.

Native Tongues - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

under Peripheral Members

as verified by Q-Tip

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Native Tongues - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

under Peripheral Members

as verified by Q-Tip

Every nikka that burns incense and fukks with broads that wear headwraps is a peripheral member lol.

The core Native Tongues who people think of are JBs, ATCQ, Black Sheep, De La, and Monie Love and Latifah to a lesser extent.

 

[FreshAIG]

A lot of wild shyt on this list, but the bolded legit had me burst out laughing. I'm over here damn near in tears off some of these. Dude just said fukk it, everything's a classic.

Lmao son just posted every album from every member in their respective groups

 

[The Dust King]

A lot of wild shyt on this list, but the bolded legit had me burst out laughing. I'm over here damn near in tears off some of these. Dude just said fukk it, everything's a classic.

Lol like i said earlier this my honest to god feelings.

You nggaz just repeat the same 20 albums as classics over and over shyt is washed to me

I would look at the source and see an album get stiffed on mics,

So id proclaim it 5 mics, fukk the reviewer and the magazine.

Never let the public influence my perception. At worst some of those albums i listed are "good" to you

Nggaz over here in circular debates while im sayin the fuschnickens had a classic

Or the Force MDS. Or sunz of man first album?

I consider yall to strict wit the term classic, its almost as if hiphop history is helped destroyed by its listeners

What up doc?

 

[The Dust King]

Lmao son just posted every album from every member in their respective groups

I didnt post every album but your talkin about 2 CLASSiC groups who been makin music for decades and accordin to yall its 5 classics amongst all

The truth is its just an opinion, but its my opinion hiphop is bigger than the tiny lists that get recycled everyday

 

[Northern Son]

Nah, and Liquid Swords>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Peoples' Instinctive Travels in the Paths of Rhythm

 

[notPsychosiz]

how you gonna leave Meth(and, possibly ODB ) off that Wu list..?

Breh, Meth has ZERO classics.
ODB has 1 (Return to the 36 Chambers).

Only way Meth has a classic under his belt is if you count Blackout... buts thats mostly cause of Redman just keeping it 100.