Naughty Dawg to use Last gen tech for PS4

[Optimus Prime]

yeah, they don't need to change the engine, its perfect the way it is. just need a good story. after playing the new Tomb Raider, Lara & Drake should meet in one these games in the future...

 

[StarClout]

TLOU got Courtdog shook :jayheh:

 

[Heretic]

Aren't most game engines just an upgrade of the one before it? Kind of like call of duty claiming a few tweaks as a brand new engine when all it is doing is taking the old hardware and fine tuning it to show more lighting and particle effects, oh and fish. Naughty dog will be fine I'm sure, same as 343 and epic.

 

[marcuz]

i've been thinking about this a lot lately with the ps4 and xbox one. would y'all prefer a sizable upgrade in graphics, along with the usual loading times and lack of exploration options.

or would you prefer top end uncharted 3 graphics from this gen, that loads incredibly fast and could be applied to a fully fleshed out open world/sandbox game? like a uncharted open world game where most the buildings are accessible and incredibly detailed.

which would you prefer? cus i'm tired of loading times and sandbox games where most of the buildings are shytty textures.

 

[Mass]

I would not call it better as in how it looks, the details of the debris and stuff, but it defiantly had way more buildings you could bring down. Like in BF3 there are some buildings that will completely collapse, but it is more restrictive and tactical in which building are totally collapsible.

Hopefully they will allow more destruction bf4, but not like BC2 where like the whole place was wrecked.

Negative, by the end of a war the whole place should bee ruined

 

[Fatboi1]

TLOU got Courtdog shook :jayheh:

Dude got TLOU and Sony's E3 conference on his mind.

 

[PS5 Pro]

Courtdog clearly has no idea what a game engine is or how they work

but this is to be expected from a young earth creationist

I clearly have no idea how engines work Ok, then why don't you explain it to us

That is obvious from the thread title alone.

So the thread title is false?

Forums, youtubers, streamers, game devs, people that know what they are talking about

So like I said, you got your info from Fanboy central. This hoe said "youtubers" which is a gay azz thing to say so naturally streamers and confetti flew in the air (in your mind) and since you don't know any game devs nor could you provide a single link to back up your claims. I'll just keep it moving until you do

Aren't most game engines just an upgrade of the one before it? Kind of like call of duty claiming a few tweaks as a brand new engine when all it is doing is taking the old hardware and fine tuning it to show more lighting and particle effects, oh and fish. Naughty dog will be fine I'm sure, same as 343 and epic.

Yeah, all yall So now your trying to justify why we should never change engines I knew this info would be a tough pill to swallow. This niqqa here said COD didn't add anything How you know exactly what they did an did not add? Its a whole new engine. If you seen the reveal, you'd know this. But your downplaying and basically lying and crying because the truth is too much. So you wanna downplay any engine upgrade since naughtydog isn't? Wow, ok...

i've been thinking about this a lot lately with the ps4 and xbox one. would y'all prefer a sizable upgrade in graphics, along with the usual loading times and lack of exploration options.

or would you prefer top end uncharted 3 graphics from this gen, that loads incredibly fast and could be applied to a fully fleshed out open world/sandbox game? like a uncharted open world game where most the buildings are accessible and incredibly detailed.

which would you prefer? cus i'm tired of loading times and sandbox games where most of the buildings are shytty textures.

Loading wasn't an issue this gen on xbox. PS3 had the weakest versions of blu-ray drives out there. Slowest shiits so games loaded slow over there. And now xbox has eliminated loading altogether which is awesome. You see friend, on Xbox One you don't have to choose between loading and graphics. You don't have to choose if you want to Watch TV and interact with it in ways we all imagined we would one day. Or you can see what sony comes up with as a pale in comparison alternative (Story Tru)

E3 is almost upon us

 

[marcuz]

Loading wasn't an issue this gen on xbox.:

it's hard to read your shyt when the first thing that comes out of your mouth is a boldface lie. loading has always been an issue with every console and 360 is no different. last game i played on xbox was mass effect 2, which had damn near minute long 'elevator rides'

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Damn the mind control SONY has and the spin here is powerful.... now if this was a thread about an XBOX ONE game using last gen tech.... Sony stans would be feasting in here like this was the fukk up.

 

[Mensch Fontana]

XBots running out of straws to grasp...

 

[Heretic]

Yeah, all yall So now your trying to justify why we should never change engines I knew this info would be a tough pill to swallow. This niqqa here said COD didn't add anything How you know exactly what they did an did not add? Its a whole new engine. If you seen the reveal, you'd know this. But your downplaying and basically lying and crying because the truth is too much. So you wanna downplay any engine upgrade since naughtydog isn't? Wow, ok...

Did you watch that cod reveal? You mean to tell me you were impressed by that? You dont think that's really a new engine do you? I thought that even in your blind fanboy rant you would at least know what you're talking about. Also dont take my comments out of context, I said all of these companies are doing the same thing and that nit a bad thing at all. You get an engine that works and you build on it. It's the same concept with cars, for example why is it that chevy can pump out the same engine for 50 years that allows you to tweak it to optimum performance? It's because they have a good base and foundation that allows it to be built upon. Good thing I was prepared for you to not know what your dumbass was talking about.

This is your new call of duty engine here.

Call of Duty: Ghosts' new engine still iterative, not built from scratch | Joystiq

Call of Duty: Ghosts' new engine still iterative, not built from scratch Jordan Mallory | May 28th 2013 5:15 PM EDT

When Infinity Ward talks about Call of Duty: Ghosts' new engine,the term "new" carries an implied asterisk, at least according to animation lead Zach Volker. "When we're talking about a new engine, we're talking about upgrading significant systems within in that engine –we're not talking about throwing it all away and saying we're starting from the ground up," Volker told Official PlayStation Magazine UK.

Creating a brand-new, from-scratch engine on Infinity Ward's production timeline would require "an army of 200 engineers" according to Volker, so the distinction of "new" is made by how significantly upgraded the latest version of the engine is, as compared to the last.

"We say okay, what are the things that are significant," Volker said, "that are encompassing of the engine or its visual quality? Are those being upgraded in a significant way? Alright then, I think that warrants that we've got a new engine on our hands."

Or how about more proof?

Call of Duty: Ghosts' Engine Is An Upgrade, Not All-New - Forbes

Call of Duty: Ghosts engine isn't brand new, but upgraded | PC Gamer

Like I keep telling you, if you take the fanboy glasses off then you'll see the truth sometimes. I shyt on or praise sony or microsoft I just call a spade a spade so I dont come across like a misinformed fool. I'll let you go ahead and tell me those examples i posted were wrong too.

 

[PS5 Pro]

it's hard to read your shyt when the first thing that comes out of your mouth is a boldface lie. loading has always been an issue with every console and 360 is no different. last game i played on xbox was mass effect 2, which had damn near minute long 'elevator rides'

So because "A" game had loading, loading was an overall "issue" on xbox
Niqqa, we didn't have mandatory installs except for a handful of games. Literally a handful. You really didn't know that did you Its well known PS3 had load issues up and down. The reason is because of the slow BD drive in the PS3. Go google that so you can learn yourself something

XBots running out of straws to grasp...

Yeah, like Heretic here...

Did you watch that cod reveal? You mean to tell me you were impressed by that? You dont think that's really a new engine do you? I thought that even in your blind fanboy rant you would at least know what you're talking about. Also dont take my comments out of context, I said all of these companies are doing the same thing and that nit a bad thing at all. You get an engine that works and you build on it. It's the same concept with cars, for example why is it that chevy can pump out the same engine for 50 years that allows you to tweak it to optimum performance? It's because they have a good base and foundation that allows it to be built upon. Good thing I was prepared for you to not know what your dumbass was talking about.

This is your new call of duty engine here.

Call of Duty: Ghosts' new engine still iterative, not built from scratch | Joystiq

Call of Duty: Ghosts' new engine still iterative, not built from scratch Jordan Mallory | May 28th 2013 5:15 PM EDT

When Infinity Ward talks about Call of Duty: Ghosts' new engine,the term "new" carries an implied asterisk, at least according to animation lead Zach Volker. "When we're talking about a new engine, we're talking about upgrading significant systems within in that engine –we're not talking about throwing it all away and saying we're starting from the ground up," Volker told Official PlayStation Magazine UK.

Creating a brand-new, from-scratch engine on Infinity Ward's production timeline would require "an army of 200 engineers" according to Volker, so the distinction of "new" is made by how significantly upgraded the latest version of the engine is, as compared to the last.

"We say okay, what are the things that are significant," Volker said, "that are encompassing of the engine or its visual quality? Are those being upgraded in a significant way? Alright then, I think that warrants that we've got a new engine on our hands."

Or how about more proof?

Call of Duty: Ghosts' Engine Is An Upgrade, Not All-New - Forbes

Call of Duty: Ghosts engine isn't brand new, but upgraded | PC Gamer

Like I keep telling you, if you take the fanboy glasses off then you'll see the truth sometimes. I shyt on or praise sony or microsoft I just call a spade a spade so I dont come across like a misinformed fool. I'll let you go ahead and tell me those examples i posted were wrong too.

Now whats funny about this post is the claims of myself having tunnel vision. Let me demonstrate how that simply is NOT true. I read your reply, and I see now that the COD GHOST engine isn't entirely new. So, now that you have focused all your attention on COD, you ready to get back to this threads topic? Even the upgrades made in COD trumps what Naughtydawg will do for there games because if you read MY link you'd see how they say they not making a new engine because (and here's the part that is total bullshiiit) because it took them 4 games to get it right
So basicaly what they are saying is the entire Uncharted Series is trash

Will anyone speak on what I just wrote, or will the focus be put on COD and pastrami sandwiches

Spoiler

Oh cuz I'm on all of you again?

 

[Heretic]

Now whats funny about this post is the claims of myself having tunnel vision. Let me demonstrate how that simply is NOT true. I read your reply, and I see now that the COD GHOST engine isn't entirely new. So, now that you have focused all your attention on COD, you ready to get back to this threads topic? Even the upgrades made in COD trumps what Naughtydawg will do for there games because if you read MY link you'd see how they say they not making a new engine because (and here's the part that is total bullshiiit) because it took them 4 games to get it right
So basicaly what they are saying is the entire Uncharted Series is trash

Will anyone speak on what I just wrote, or will the focus be put on COD and pastrami sandwiches

Spoiler

Oh cuz I'm on all of you again?

I brought up the call of duty engine for a reason. Either way, if you read the article from naughty dog it says the same thing, that they will make changes as needed. They alluded to that in the article and that's what all developers do for the most part with just a few exceptions. That's really as deep as it goes tbh, naughty dog was honest enough to come out and say it's the same engine. Most people with knowledge on the subject will tell you that it's cost prohibitive to build a new engine from the ground up and most companies just develop an engine and build on it. It just sounds good to use buzz words like all new or brand new when all they do is just scale what is already there.

and no I didn't say the uncharted series is trash and neither did they. You took that entire quote out of context breh.

 

[marcuz]

So because "A" game had loading, loading was an overall "issue" on xbox
Niqqa, we didn't have mandatory installs except for a handful of games. Literally a handful. You really didn't know that did you Its well known PS3 had load issues up and down. The reason is because of the slow BD drive in the PS3. Go google that so you can learn yourself something
[/SPOILER]

the levels of your stanning knows no bounds. can't believe you're trying to 360 games have no loading times.

and i didn't say anything about loading being strictly a 360 issue. i specifically said all consoles have load times. doesn't matter if you're playing on a dvd, blu-ray or completely digital. tell me one title that on 360 that's completely absolved of loading times.

 

[PS5 Pro]

I brought up the call of duty engine for a reason. Either way, if you read the article from naughty dog it says the same thing, that they will make changes as needed. They alkuded to that in the article and that's what all developers do for the most part with just a few exceptions. That's really as deep as it goes tbh, naughty dog was honest enough to come out and say it's the same engine. Most people with knowledge on the subject will tell you that it's cost prohibitive to build a new engine from the ground up and most companies just develop an engine and build on it. It just sounds good to use buzz words like all new or brand new when all they do is just scale what is already there.

and no I didn't say the uncharted series is trash and neither did they. You took that entire quote out of context breh.

So now they didn't say it took them 4 games to get it right (thats the exact quote) but I'll let you explain it so that it means something totally different
As for tweaks to engines, yes all companies do that. And then they upgrade there engines. Especially when a NEW GENERATION comes out. You can't use old engines in new gens because they don't take advantage of the hardware. FACT. Unless they had planned ahead (like Frostbite 2)
Same with the engine Crysis 2/3 is built on. You trying to explain how engines work/develop. I know all this already bruh. I can give you examples of games that used the same engines. NBA2k Series uses an updated version of an old engine. The players and there movements are all knew, but he graphic styles are the same. We all would love an upgrade. Same shyt will happen with all naughtydawg games this gen. They'll look similar to what you already seen. Since its the same engine, its impossible for it to look like a new engine is what I'm saying. Uncharted I expect the best of what the PS4 can offer. But that will NOT be the case because of this.

You guys are just underestimating how advanced this new tech is. A better Uncharted new engine or not is still a new uncharted game. I know this, I play and played the game more than 99% of you here... combined. I'm not gonna point to the fact a new game will drop and ignore the topic and how that will affect these new games. Talk about Tunnel fanboy vision. Gears of War Xbox One which is the game Uncharted was created to compete against. Well, there wont be comparisons this gen. ONE will look like a real next gen game, the other will look like Uncharted 3.5

the levels of your stanning knows no bounds. can't believe you're trying to 360 games have no loading times.

and i didn't say anything about loading being strictly a 360 issue. i specifically said all consoles have load times. doesn't matter if you're playing on a dvd, blu-ray or completely digital. tell me one title that on 360 that's completely absolved of loading times.

IN game? MOst of them. Games sometimes take a minute to get TO THE TITLE screen. But in game, loading isn't really an issue. Not where its a complaint? Nah bruh, thats a PS3 exclusive right there. Even if there are 3/4/5 xbox games that have loading times. Thats not enough to say they all in the same boat, cuz they not tho