NBA All-Quarter Century Teams: LeBron, Kobe, Steph are locks, but center and power forward debates get tricky

[Shadow King]

And Shaq's peak is just as great. While Jokic doesn't really have an offensive hole IMO, defensively is .

Can't put him over Timmy, Giannis, and Dirk. And that's no knock to KG.

Their individual peaks are debatable.

You absolutely can put KG over Dirk. Can't bring up the defense argument for Shaq vs Jokic then skip it in Dirk vs KG, especially when Dirk is mediocre in the offensive dimension of passing, while Jokic is one of the GOAT playmakers.

I personally don't rank Tim as a PF but that's not a popular opinion so it is what it is.

 

[David_TheMan]

Can't put TMac over Kobe, Wade, and Harden (he's 3rd team you missed it)
Deron can't put over CP3, Nash, Steph. Dame would probably be 4th after those 3, then maybe Deron.
CB4 - Timmy, Giannis, Dirk gotta come first. Even KG would be next after those 3
Melo is the hardest at the 3 with Bron, KD, and Kawhi. He'd be next in line though after those 3 at the SF.

Deron is going in over Nash imho.
If people are gonna hold the nets deron against him hold the lakers, raptors Nash against him.

Tmac is over Kobe as a player to me.

Duncan needs to be at center where he belongs put him 1st and Shaq 2nd. Joker 3

Maybe slide Gianni's over there to open up a spot for kg or Bosh.imho

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[Controversy]

How many times you going to post this

Bc I'm tired of this false narrative

Nikka jumping at tip off, defending Perk instead of KG

And is being labeled as a PF...it's horse shyt

 

[Rekkapryde]

Their individual peaks are debatable.

You absolutely can put KG over Dirk. Can't bring up the defense argument for Shaq vs Jokic then skip it in Dirk vs KG, especially when Dirk is mediocre in the offensive dimension of passing, while Jokic is one of the GOAT playmakers.

Shaq was that dude since Day 1 in the league. And has 4 rings in this quarter century. And Joker couldn't guard him.

Dirk went to two finals and won 1 without a Superteam. He also was one of the few who played well vs KG head to head. Dirk proved he could carry a team. KG is more complimentary.

I personally don't rank Tim as a PF but that's not a popular opinion so it is what it is

He def played C at times, but won multiple rings with David Robinson playing the 5 along with other sorry centers they had playing the 5 too while he played the 4 most of the time. He's the GOAT PF.

 

[darryl]

@Primetime is a known Jokic dikkrider

 

[darryl]

@Primetime bytch ass nikka gobbled on that sebrians dikk then ran away from the thread. Fakkit.

 

[SchoolboyC]

Can't put TMac over Kobe, Wade, and Harden (he's 3rd team you missed it)
Deron can't put over CP3, Nash, Steph. Dame would probably be 4th after those 3, then maybe Deron.
CB4 - Timmy, Giannis, Dirk gotta come first. Even KG would be next after those 3
Melo is the hardest at the 3 with Bron, KD, and Kawhi. He'd be next in line though after those 3 at the SF.

If we’re going off overall resume and not peak, Deron I don’t think is even a top 10 guard

Steph
Kobe
Wade
Harden
CP3
Nash
Kidd
AI
Westbrook
SGA
Dame
Kyrie
Ray
Parker

Off top of my head all did more

 

[Rekkapryde]

If we’re going off overall resume and not peak, Deron I don’t think is even a top 10 guard

Steph
Kobe
Wade
Harden
CP3
Nash
Kidd
AI
Westbrook
SGA
Dame
Kyrie
Ray
Parker

Off top of my head all did more

Yeah, hard to knock those guys being bypassed for Deron.

 

[duckbutta]

Bc I'm tired of this false narrative

Nikka jumping at tip off, defending Perk instead of KG

And is being labeled as a PF...it's horse shyt

Jumping at the tip off makes you a center

 

[duckbutta]

And Shaq's peak is just as great. While Jokic doesn't really have an offensive hole IMO, defensively is .

Can't put him over Timmy, Giannis, and Dirk. And that's no knock to KG. He'd be next in line.

I got KG over Dirk pretty easy. Slightly over Giannis now cause of the all defensive teams selections but Giannis probably passes him eventually.

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

I thought about the Shaq/Jokic thing and then realized this is from 2000 and up and Shaq started to fall off around 2005-2006. Jokic has been dominant longer.

This is only 2000’s in up Jokic is still under Shaq on the all time list.

 

[SchoolboyC]

I thought about the Shaq/Jokic thing and then realized this is from 2000 and up and Shaq started to fall off around 2005-2006. Jokic has been dominant longer.

This is only 2000’s in up Jokic is still under Shaq on the all time list.

Not necessarily

Shaq from 2000 to 2009: 3x champion, 3x FMVP, 1x MVP, 9x All-Star, 8x All-NBA (7 1st team), 3x All-Defense, 1x scoring champ

Jokic from 2016 to 2025: 1x champion, 1x FMVP, 3x MVP, 7x All-Star, 7x All-NBA (5 1st team)

Jokic been in the league for 10 years, but it took him a couple years to break out as a star so it evened out.

Rankings are all opinion at the end of the day tho

 

[Rekkapryde]

I got KG over Dirk pretty easy. Slightly over Giannis now cause of the all defensive teams selections but Giannis probably passes him eventually.

Dirk's run in 2011 cemented himself ovee KG to me. No Superteam beating the Superteam and getting revenge from 2006.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I just can’t put Jockic over Shaq…otherwise, first team is GTG

 

[duckbutta]

Dirk's run in 2011 cemented himself ovee KG to me. No Superteam beating the Superteam and getting revenge from 2006.

12 all defensive teams selections vs 0 all defensive team selections