NBA Analytics is pure bullsh*t

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Well personally, I think Analytics is pure bullshyt

Which I can assume the experienced Black coaches also think so, which is why they don't use it, and why most aren't employed

- Raw stats can tell the story pretty well actually. I also like cross reference stats too, like how many points allowed against West Conf teams, or how many ppg James Harden scores against the Cavs, etc etc. To me, those are pretty good in painting a picture on how a coach can adjust to make his players and team more successful, and what to emphasize on, so they can improve

- Analytics is extremely flawed, because those Stats are calculated in the moment, have have no bearing on how that person is doing overall, and has no bearing on the many factors that influence those analytics. It's similar to Calculus. It's cool to calculate what's happening instantaneously, but it applies nothing to the real world. I took a couple Statistics classes before. Influential factors can change alot of things. For instance someone's + / - of a player depends alot on who's on the floor with him, how talented is the person he's guarding and scoring against, the pace of the game, is someone in foul trouble and not giving it 100%, is someone injured/hobbled, how good is the floor spacing, etc etc. It can go on and on. And just like the nature of Statistics, you can manipulate the numbers to fit any narrative you want

- I think there's a real effort to promote and bring in more white players in the NBA. The influx of Zone defense/offense and highly structured system offense overrates average players. And Analytics is the perfect tool to promote AVERAGE. This is why CACs love college basketball so much. Look at the propaganda lingo they say. "Ugh, I would hate to see an offense where they ISO you to death", "Look how much shot attempts that player has"

News flash. If you are a superstar player, YOU WILL HAVE ISO PLAYS CALLED FOR YOU. That's basically what being a star means. shyt, even a post up by a center is basically an isolation play :mjlol:
 

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For instance someone's + / - of a player depends alot on who's on the floor with him, how talented is the person he's guarding and scoring against, the pace of the game,

Basic ass +/- is not "analytics"
:mjlol:

More advanced measures have regression models that try to take all these factors into account. You're also really pigeonholing what analytics is. Lineup statistics are analytics for example. The fact that the 76ers post a net rating of ~52 win team when Joel Embiid is on the court and a ~15 win team when he's off it is both interesting and telling.

If we just kept with basic box score stats, people would think Jahlil Okafor was actually good. I mean, he averaged per 36 21ppg, 8.4rpg, 1.4rpg as a rookie, right? Analytics makes it clear just how much of a detriment Jahlil Okafor is. As a Philly fan, I can tell you just how true it is. You can't be competitive with this man on the floor, and he often hurts the team on both ends. A lot of players have empty stats, and analytics often does a pretty good job of exposing that.

Is it perfect? Of course not, it's still developing. Is it valuable? Definitely.
 

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Brad Stevens went from coaching the Butler Bulldogs (who he took to the National Championship game twice) to coaching the Boston Celtics. he thinks what you just said is pure bullshyt.
Yeah I hate how alot of people dismiss advanced analytics but are quick to accept traditional stats lol.
 
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What is the obsession with trying to make analytics into a white person thing? We should praise black coaches who invest in learning it. It's not going away.
This.

It's bizarre.

It low key is some self-hating shyt.

Black people can't use or compute advanced stats? What is OP actually trying to say here?
 

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Brad Stevens went from coaching the Butler Bulldogs (who he took to the National Championship game twice) to coaching the Boston Celtics. he thinks what you just said is pure bullshyt.
What accomplishments has he made with the Celtics:jbhmm:

You act like any white coach who get to a NC game won't automatically get NBA offers:skip:
 

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What accomplishments has he made with the Celtics:jbhmm:

You act like any white coach who get to a NC game won't automatically get NBA offers:skip:


it's not going to happen overnight. you need more than just analytics to win. you need the right team and that takes time. no matter what style of coaching you use.

you're not going to just walk right in the NBA and start winning. he will get to the finals. and what accomplishments has he made with the Celtics? he's still coaching in the NBA nikka. how many people can say that?
 

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it's not going to happen overnight. you need more than just analytics to win. you need the right team and that takes time. no matter what style of coaching you use.

you're not going to just walk right in the NBA and start winning. he will get to the finals. and what accomplishments has he made with the Celtics? he's still coaching in the NBA nikka. how many people can say that?
Shyt Fred Hoiberg is still coaching :mjlol:
 
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