NBA Finals Tactical discussion (Game 3)

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Game 2 showed that a small change in the warriors line up could prove devastating for the cavaliers. The warriors inserted Javelle and instantly had a roll threat to the rim. This exposed an already weak defender in Kevin love more because now the cavs had to choose between leaving shooters open or dropping down on the diver.

The stayed on the shooters and javelle went 4/4 instantly, this in turn opened the offense more when they started helping and the ball was moved around and the warriors offense was unstoppable at that point.


Lettuce come together and give our thoughs on what strategies the cavs can use for game 3 and possible line up changes. Please keep your bron stan wars away from this thread :mjlol:



- My Take

Cavs go BIG, trade hill and Jr for Korver and Jeff green. Lebron runs point and put Korver and green at the 2 and 3 respectively, keep Love and Tristan and now you have a full line up where the smallest guy is 6-8.

Lebron - Primary ball handler and play maker, can also switch on any of the warriors players and has good size to defend adequately.

Korver - Big shooting guard that stretches the floor and warps defense, he does not actually have to score just keep moving him off screens and pin downs. Right now hes a 100% bigger threat than JR offensively, defensively he gives good effort and has good enough size. The only way the warriors exploit him is if they go ISO but if they do that they lose ball movement and play into the cavs hands. Having the warriors try to exploit Korver is EXACTLY what you want, you can help off non shooters and Korver can force penetration into help defense.

Green - A big and strong defender who can post up and be a secondary ball handler for some possessions, if he gets a good swich he can post up Curry or Klay depending on how they play it. Hes not an elite defender but he wont be abused on the switch, the current problem is hes a non factor shooting wise so you have to pray he starts hitting corner 3s. :francis:


Love - love would be the second offensive threat and should run that cross pick action that has been getting him open looks, hes weak defensively but thats ok as long as he forces penetration towards the paint where the cavs bigger defenders should be :yeshrug:


Tristan - This big oaf has to continue to play great defense and for the love of God catch the damn ball when its given to him :stopitslime:




Now as soon as the warriors take javelle off the floor you can bring in Hill and JR of the bench for offense :ehh:

Cavs best shot here is to slow down the tempo and let lebrons scoring control the pace like he did in game 1, what they should be trying to emulate is the houston series where the warriors were forced to iso more than they liked. The bigger players should also allow for better defensive rebounding which was atrocious in game 2 :hhh:


Dont be afraid to bring in Cedi osman for some rough play :manny: its do or die time no need to play nice :dame: shyt bring perkins for a minute as well :dame:




TLDR- Slow game down, get bigger players on the floor that can switch everything, force warriors to iso more because when they iso they give the ball to durant. And the warriors are 10 times worse when the ball is in durants hands rather than curry :youngsabo:
 

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Just hope the threes are clicking at home and go for it. There’s really no tactical move to be made that’ll give the Cavs an actual ADVANTAGE in the game so, as defeatist as it sounds, you’re really just hoping to keep the game close going into the last two minutes and hope Tony Brothers isn’t officiating again.

Or else just have a Game 4 2017 shooting performance and blow them out early, and the Warriors will probably fold relatively easily knowing they have the series on lock. But you can’t really “plan” to be hitting all of your shots like that.
 

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hoods actually even worse than JR on defense tho :francis:
I don’t disagree but JRs defense is not good enough to make up for his abhorrent offense and all around horrendous situational awareness. No one can convince me an engaged Rodney Hood can’t consistently give Cleveland at least 15 if not 20.
 

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Klay gonna go off and drop 71 on the Cavs.
i dont know why i chose to go with the number 71 but im feeing really confident about this prediction.
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I don’t disagree but JRs defense is not good enough to make up for his abhorrent offense and all around horrendous situational awareness. No one can convince me an engaged Rodney Hood can’t consistently give Cleveland at least 15 if not 20.



Breh his scoring is clarkson status right now, better to have Korver out there coming of screens since people still respect his shooting. :ld:
 

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Game 2 showed that a small change in the warriors line up could prove devastating for the cavaliers. The warriors inserted Javelle and instantly had a roll threat to the rim. This exposed an already weak defender in Kevin love more because now the cavs had to choose between leaving shooters open or dropping down on the diver.

The stayed on the shooters and javelle went 4/4 instantly, this in turn opened the offense more when they started helping and the ball was moved around and the warriors offense was unstoppable at that point.


Lettuce come together and give our thoughs on what strategies the cavs can use for game 3 and possible line up changes. Please keep your bron stan wars away from this thread :mjlol:



- My Take

Cavs go BIG, trade hill and Jr for Korver and Jeff green. Lebron runs point and put Korver and green at the 2 and 3 respectively, keep Love and Tristan and now you have a full line up where the smallest guy is 6-8.

Lebron - Primary ball handler and play maker, can also switch on any of the warriors players and has good size to defend adequately.

Korver - Big shooting guard that stretches the floor and warps defense, he does not actually have to score just keep moving him off screens and pin downs. Right now hes a 100% bigger threat than JR offensively, defensively he gives good effort and has good enough size. The only way the warriors exploit him is if they go ISO but if they do that they lose ball movement and play into the cavs hands. Having the warriors try to exploit Korver is EXACTLY what you want, you can help off non shooters and Korver can force penetration into help defense.

Green - A big and strong defender who can post up and be a secondary ball handler for some possessions, if he gets a good swich he can post up Curry or Klay depending on how they play it. Hes not an elite defender but he wont be abused on the switch, the current problem is hes a non factor shooting wise so you have to pray he starts hitting corner 3s. :francis:


Love - love would be the second offensive threat and should run that cross pick action that has been getting him open looks, hes weak defensively but thats ok as long as he forces penetration towards the paint where the cavs bigger defenders should be :yeshrug:


Tristan - This big oaf has to continue to play great defense and for the love of God catch the damn ball when its given to him :stopitslime:




Now as soon as the warriors take javelle off the floor you can bring in Hill and JR of the bench for offense :ehh:

Cavs best shot here is to slow down the tempo and let lebrons scoring control the pace like he did in game 1, what they should be trying to emulate is the houston series where the warriors were forced to iso more than they liked. The bigger players should also allow for better defensive rebounding which was atrocious in game 2 :hhh:


Dont be afraid to bring in Cedi osman for some rough play :manny: its do or die time no need to play nice :dame: shyt bring perkins for a minute as well :dame:




TLDR- Slow game down, get bigger players on the floor that can switch everything, force warriors to iso more because when they iso they give the ball to durant. And the warriors are 10 times worse when the ball is in durants hands rather than curry :youngsabo:

So you're suggesting these lineups:

Steph/Klay/Durant/Dray/Javale

vs

Korver/Hood/Bron/Love/TT?

you don't see the severe discrepancy in perimeter offense here?
 

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So you're suggesting these lineups:

Steph/Klay/Durant/Dray/Javale

vs

Korver/Hood/Bron/Love/TT?

you don't see the severe discrepancy in perimeter offense here?


hood not playing breh


Its Korver/Bron/green/love/tristan and yes they are outmatched but now they actually have size to switch everything, game 2 when hill switch to javelle it was easy 2 points.


Plus this line up is much better defensively and weaker offensively, which is why you need bron to control pace and slow things down.
 
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