NBA PRESEASON HOT TAKES

[Shadow King]

You said Kyrie is the biggest change. He's not. Hayward is. The addition of Heyward is why people are saying this is a better roster than last year when that move is responsible for the loss of both Crowder(taking his PT) and Bradley(wouldn't sign for 300k less so they could keep him). He has to provide equal or greater value than both of them in order for him to be a true improvement. Tatum and Brown are still developing so he'll need to compensate for the drop-off due to their inexperience.

Kyrie has a completely different team than the one IT had last year. 4/5 primary starters are gone as well as some of their bench. If he does what he's been doing then he shouldn't shoulder the blame if they "regress", since the regression would be based on what the franchise did, not what was done with the same roster. I do believe that he needs to step up and show why he wanted his "own" team, but the fate of the Celtics this season is in the hands of Hayward, not Kyrie.

The fate of the Celtics will not be deemed Hayward's burden because he's not the best player, or at least not the best scorer. This will only happen if Kyrie decides to become a passing point guard and let Hayward shoot which won't happen. Plus Hayward is not giving equal or greater value than Bradley and Crowder alone because that means he'd have to average 30 while playing lock down D. He AND Kyrie along with the young players have to do that.

Boston moved Bradley to afford Hayward but Crowder wasn't going to lose too many minutes with him, Hayward can play the 2 or Crowder would be a small 4. Crowder is gone because of Kyrie. What you're saying may be true if Hayward remained the best player the Celtics acquired in the offseason, but he didn't. Kyrie, upon request and desire to "be the man", shook up the roster even further. He's there to replace their best player so the onus is on him.

The media won't talk about the front office too much because the front office isn't on the court.

 

[DetroitEWarren]

This rookie class will have the most double digits scorers in NBA history and at least 3 players over 20ppg, 6-10 players over 15ppg

 

[Professor K.]

The fate of the Celtics will not be deemed Hayward's burden because he's not the best player, or at least not the best scorer. This will only happen if Kyrie decides to become a passing point guard and let Hayward shoot which won't happen. Plus Hayward is not giving equal or greater value than Bradley and Crowder alone because that means he'd have to average 30 while playing lock down D. He AND Kyrie along with the young players have to do that.

Boston moved Bradley to afford Hayward but Crowder wasn't going to lose too many minutes with him, Hayward can play the 2 or Crowder would be a small 4. Crowder is gone because of Kyrie. What you're saying may be true if Hayward remained the best player the Celtics acquired in the offseason, but he didn't. Kyrie, upon request and desire to "be the man", shook up the roster even further. He's there to replace their best player so the onus is on him.

The media won't talk about the front office too much because the front office isn't on the court.

You're right, Kyrie is their best player, #1 option, etc just like IT was. If he plays just as good or a little better then that should be a wash. The question is will Hayward be a solid enough #2 to make up for their "#2 by committee" approach last year. If he doesn't produce at that high level then they will take a step back. The real determining factor is gonna be Brown and Tatum's development. If they turn the corner and can contribute somewhat equal to the pieces they lost then Hayward is now a bonus and not just a replacement.

 

[Professor K.]

This rookie class will have the most double digits scorers in NBA history and at least 3 players over 20ppg, 6-10 players over 15ppg

Name them.

 

[DetroitEWarren]

Name them.

DSJ, Monk, Josh, Fultz, Simmons, and Tatum will all be over 15ppg I'm, Tatum is the only question mark but he is BY FAR the most offensively prepared to be a great scorer, but he will be coming off the bench until further notice. Everybody else is in a situation where there teams will need big numbers from them, I expect DSJ to be anywhere from 15-22ppg on that Mavs squad, they could be a low playoff seed also.

 

[Professor K.]

DSJ, Monk, Josh, Fultz, Simmons, and Tatum will all be over 15ppg I'm, Tatum is the only question mark but he is BY FAR the most offensively prepared to be a great scorer, but he will be coming off the bench until further notice. Everybody else is in a situation where there teams will need big numbers from them, I expect DSJ to be anywhere from 15-22ppg on that Mavs squad, they could be a low playoff seed also.

I think Fultz, Monk, and JJ will all fall into the 12-14ppg range, with a lot of weeks of 8-17-10-22-6 type of scoring lines but agreed that there is going to be an influx of scoring from this rookie class.

And don't forget about John Collins

 

[DetroitEWarren]

I think Fultz, Monk, and JJ will all fall into the 12-14ppg range, with a lot of weeks of 8-17-10-22-6 type of scoring lines but agreed that there is going to be an influx of scoring from this rookie class.

And don't forget about John Collins

Fasho.

I can't wait to see Monk tonight though (since he ain't play summer league) cause he is one of the hardest rookies I have ever had to judge, I think at worse dude will be as good as Crawford/Lou Williams, at best dude could be a 25ppg scorer most of his career. His mid range game is automatic and dude gets separation with ease, we will be able to see early just how good he can Max out at.

 

[DarrynCobretti]

Kyrie about to drop 30 a night or die trying.

 

[DonKnock]

It's fukkin' lit. @DonKnock

We're obviously going to remain the 2nd best offensive team in the League behind Golden State this season & be much better because efficiency will increase & turnovers will go down with CP3 here now.

The only question left with this current roster is can they be a Top 5 defense like they were in 14/15? The arrival of Tucker, Mbah Moute & CP3 will help. I also expect Capela to make a huge leap in a contract year & Harden to improve with Paul constantly barking on his ass + the much reduced offensive workload.

We'll probably destroy OKC in 5 once again this season.

Word on the street is that this Kawhi quad injury is going to keep him out into the regular season.

Might be able to get that 2 seed if they keep him out extra time to be precautionary

 

[ISO]

DSJ, Monk, Josh, Fultz, Simmons, and Tatum will all be over 15ppg I'm, Tatum is the only question mark but he is BY FAR the most offensively prepared to be a great scorer, but he will be coming off the bench until further notice. Everybody else is in a situation where there teams will need big numbers from them, I expect DSJ to be anywhere from 15-22ppg on that Mavs squad, they could be a low playoff seed also.

I don't think Tatum will get that much burn probably get about 20-25 minutes a game, unless he gets that starting spot from Smart/Brown.

I think Monk will be more around the 10-14 points per game range.

I disagree with Josh averaging over 15 in his rookie year.

 

[Reno89]

Celtics will be a 5 seed at best

The NBA might make Brooklyn make the playoffs because they're trying to sell the team, kind of like what they did with the Atlanta in 2015.

The Nuggets will make the playoffs

 

[DetroitEWarren]

I don't think Tatum will get that much burn probably get about 20-25 minutes a game, unless he gets that starting spot from Smart/Brown.

I think Monk will be more around the 10-14 points per game range.

I disagree with Josh averaging over 15 in his rookie year.

Outside of Booker and Bledsoe I don't see anybody else putting up numbers on that squad, B Knight is coming off the bench and Josh will prob run that 2nd unit with him. With the increased scoring I expect every team in the league to have at least 3 players over 15ppg, and JOSH IS A BALL HOG lol, he is going to get his shots fasho. I also expect him to punch Chriss hoe ass in the jaw by mid season .


I think Tatum can score 15pg in 25 minutes easily, dude will be a high % scorer off rip, will probably be in the 6th man conversation also.

With Monk, I still don't really know cause we got no summer league from him, but dude is a natural born scorer with a automatic jumper, great at creating separation off the dribble, and a top 10 athlete probably. He only has Kemba as a scoring teammate who needs the ball, I think they will be a great backcourt.

 

[Professor K.]

Celtics will be a 5 seed at best

The NBA might make Brooklyn make the playoffs because they're trying to sell the team, kind of like what they did with the Atlanta in 2015.

The Nuggets will make the playoffs

nikka what?


You saying the NBA made us play some of the best team basketball seen in league history, leading to the entire starting 5 being named Player(s) of the Month, the best record in the conference by 7 games, and a conference finals appearance?

And that Brooklyn is about to do the same?

 

[LEEeveryday]

Clippers won't really miss CP3 with Milo Teodosic

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

everyone doesn't need to play the way you want them to. A non-scoring PG off the bench that seems to make your team better by just being out there is fine especially since he's coming off the bench.

We JUST saw Rondo completely change a playoff series with his impact and he's pretty much an intangible guy