NBA YB responds to Gotti daughter calling him a monkey- “I don’t fucc with Floyd ,I idolized John Gotti, have a blessed day beautiful “

[Sauce and Footwork]

MOB Ties..........nikkas so fast to jump on Eyetalian dikks. You think the mob is running around yelling "moolinyan ties!"

nikka J Prince is an actual Gangster. He named the label that because he owns it. Lol…He is not a rapper lol. We talking hip hop. Kool G rap who is a RAPPER started Mafioso rap. NY literally can’t win this argument off that fact alone. The mafia is in NY, so why wouldn’t NY talk about it the most. That’s like saying y’all started talking about gold teeth and riding in chevys. That’s something up there and this is something down here. Y’all need to let this go. The only reason we even talking about this shyt is because dude tried to call the south out like this the shot we started

But then y’all turn it around and make it seem like we hating on NY when we ain’t even start the convo

 

[O.Red]

He was talking about Irv Gotti for helping him with his career

This is easily top 3 most disingenuous comment ever made on this site

 

[African Peasant]

It's not naive. I have analyzed the music business for years and I can speak to any era you want.. it's just easy to say whites did this. Whites actually opposed a lot of the direction of the content that became most of rap. This is all documented. They would have had sesame street raps if rappers themselves didn't dictate the direction. Fight the power. From Luke for explicit content to NWA n word use to ice-T rapping bout dead cops. That was spearheaded by rappers.

Once it was accepted and SUCCESSFUL labels got behind it and sought it out in that order. We have been in the streaming era for over a decade in that timespan music had filtered it's way from the internet. From the DatPiff or livemixtapes era to SoundCloud era etc. Music has been making waves online first as artists are unsigned. You still coming with those old ass narratives. It's a distraction and an impedance to addressing the problem. Why are the youth perpetually fascinated and drawn to the most of ignorant artists. Labels are not behind that. When WE can answer that question then we begin to undo the harm. To pretend it is otherwise is a waste of time. You either want to play the blame game or seek solutions. That's on you. But this drive of ignorance generation upon generation has young Black people in a tough place. They don't have balanced representation when they look at people like themselves.

Labels as businesses went where the profit was eventually, they didn't spear head this. Even when will Smith was selling 10 million nobody wanted to rap like him. Labels couldn't make artists clean when they did try and it was proven to sell. For example in the CD era just having explicit tags would keep you out of Walmart, that's a huge market lost.

the "culture" has a hold over everyone. Ignorance has become highly valued as a representation of realness in some misguided fashion and thus you have adulation for the most ignorant acts. Youngboy and Pooh Sheisty if he wasn't locked up were the leaders of the new era. Children of Keef who is a child of Wayne. Influence flows across. People chose who they wanted to emulate. They had many options.

YoungBoy is a product of his times and the dominant culture not a label creation. He is chosen by the people. Why? Is the issue

'White' does not make sense in this context. 'White' were also against rock because it was satanic, when other white played it and listened to it.

White labels that got behind hip-hop weren't against it. White had a huge influence in taking Hip-Hop to mainstream. The idea that white people were against Hip-Hop is wrong.

In the same vein, the idea that the 'street' dictates Hip-Hop itself is false. A lot of praised street rappers never made it.

Once Hip-Hop become commercialized, it become a complex network of relationships between the 'streets', the corporations (including the radio), the rappers and the consumers, including the massive white middle class kids.

The idea that the 'streets' was the only one running this show is wrong and outdated. It's a fantasy some people believed in the 90's. No, the 'street' weren't running the show. Those wh control of the infrastructure always have in influence. Is it absolute? No. But it's there. Acting like those who been funding Hip-Hop for 40 years had 0 influence is silly. They molded Hip-Hop as much as the streets.

 

[Sauce and Footwork]

i wasn't done plenty of groups from the south using mafiaso shyt in fact in the late 90s they was outdoing the east with it but you probably a young breh or bias southern dude.

Blatant Lies … everybody know how early southern music sounded. It didn’t start with mafioso rap and then all of a sudden turned in Uncle Luke. Gtfo.. if anything we rapped exactly like y’all until we developed our own style like Everybody else cuz NY started this shyt and we all followed behind. . you can’t even be specific and give examples lol. You can’t make a statement and not back it up. Harry Potter is God.. prove me wrong… see how that works lol…So you are biased. Plus You named absolutely nobody significant at all outside of Ross, P, and , Yo Gotti… get out of here with that plenty of people in the 80s bullshyt if you not naming names…. And especially if not big names that’s not local

I’ll say it one more time… nobody in the south brought this argument up AT ALL in this thread. It was dude who started it talking like we the ones the dikkride Italians. You can’t find a lot of examples because the mafia is not down here so it has never been considered cool to rap about that shyt down here. nikka I don’t even know where any of them live where I’m at in ATL. We don’t care about the mafia.. we don’t care about a lot of the shyt up north nikkas care about. That’s not hating. We from different places. That’s beautiful.. They in NY so it makes sense y’all would rap about it. Kool G rap started it and you cannot name a rapper before him. You can’t. You can’t. So it’s not a point of going further. Kool G is from where? lol.

Y’all always starting shyt and getting upset when other nikkas call y’all out on y’all elitist misinformation bullshyt

 

[Champ_KW]

Nah..False equivalence, dont even try use this to somehow try equate NY and Southern rap. Nice try though

Ny rappers idolized anyone making money, the Mafia, the Cartels, Jew lawyers, Arab sheiks etc..but one thing is for certain, they were not c00ns and none of them would have ever responded like that. Name one NYC rapper from the 90s whod give a braindead comatose c00n response similiar the NBA youngBoy.

Name him please..name the NY rapper from the 90's who would give that response..

Some times it's not what you say, it's what you don't say. Still waiting on any of those OG NYC rappers to publicly check Fat Joseph for lying and saying Puerto Ricans and Black people created Hip Hop 50/50. Don't big up NYC rap culture when they don't have the balls to stand up for the culture black people created themselves.

 

[Studious one]

Why does he talk like that? Like his brain is trying to catch up to his lips moving

 

[Studious one]

Hey, Wu Tang is one of my favorite groups, but they had their whole "Wu Gambinos" phase, which I hated for that reason. Number of other NYC rappers too (Junior Mafia, etc.). Never got glamorizing the Italian Mob in hip hop, knowing how racist they were/are.

Pretty sure there’s a thread on here bugging up the sopranos. Great writing but stopped watching it due to the way the talked about black people on there.

 

[James Gordon]

NBA Fvckboy

 

[Jean toomer]

Was he being sarcastic?

I’m absolutely positive he believes sarcastic is that sport where the young girls do back flips and twists.

 

[CrimsonTider]

thank you for clarifying, because I couldn't match the title with what he was saying

but yeah too man nikkas out here making us look cheap(including these pawg thread desperados).

It's frustrating because people treat you based on what these destructive animals post and say

how do we shut them up if most of them refuse to act right?

This post is some c00n shyt

 

[Phitz]

This post is some c00n shyt

shut up chubby

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

'White' does not make sense in this context. 'White' were also against rock because it was satanic, when other white played it and listened to it.

White labels that got behind hip-hop weren't against it. White had a huge influence in taking Hip-Hop to mainstream. The idea that white people were against Hip-Hop is wrong.

In the same vein, the idea that the 'street' dictates Hip-Hop itself is false. A lot of praised street rappers never made it.

Once Hip-Hop become commercialized, it become a complex network of relationships between the 'streets', the corporations (including the radio), the rappers and the consumers, including the massive white middle class kids.

The idea that the 'streets' was the only one running this show is wrong and outdated. It's a fantasy some people believed in the 90's. No, the 'street' weren't running the show. Those wh control of the infrastructure always have in influence. Is it absolute? No. But it's there. Acting like those who been funding Hip-Hop for 40 years had 0 influence is silly. They molded Hip-Hop as much as the streets.

My guy you argue for the sake of it. Everything I told you is documented and in chronological order.

The streets run the show as per influence in the music above everything. Stop being in denial for the sake of argument. I gave you examples from every era. I'm not acting about anything. People like youngboy will keep getting top billing until the culture moves away from such characters not the business. The business has not created the demand for him. Notice you speak in general about this shyt. You can't get detailed. You don't want to go there. You just want to dwell in your space of denial.

 

[Hoodoo Child]

Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome | Dr. Joy DeGruy

Spoiler: Just to be clear

YB broke his neck when he was a toddler. You can tell it still affects him, mentally.

 

[African Peasant]

My guy you argue for the sake of it. Everything I told you is documented and in chronological order.

The streets run the show as per influence in the music above everything. Stop being in denial for the sake of argument. I gave you examples from every era. I'm not acting about anything. People like youngboy will keep getting top billing until the culture moves away from such characters not the business. The business has not created the demand for him. Notice you speak in general about this shyt. You can't get detailed. You don't want to go there. You just want to dwell in your space of denial.

I don't need to get detailed because it's useless. The idea that the music business is run without any influence from the corporations funding and distributing the music is stupid TBH (no disrespect).

Once Hip-Hop became a commodity, it failed under the influence of corporations injecting the money. The decision they made, the choices they made had an influence on the trajectory of he genre. What you call culture is ALSO a byproduct of corporate choices and rationality. Culture does not escape capital. That's the point you don't see.

The simple influence of radio after the Communication act has been discussed largely on this very site. Radio controlled by corporations. That's only one example.

You give too much influence to 'the street' with a very romantic vision of music production and consumption.

What Hip-Hop became is the result of complex myriad of actions and reactions from the 'street', the corporations and the consumers. Erasing the influence of the laters only leads to a misunderstanding about the real nature of what drive Hip-Hop.

Modern Hip-Hop has many fathers.

 

[Stick Up Kid]

You trying to act like other people don’t know Jay Z music

Godfather, Goodfellas, Scarface, Casino/You seen what that last run did to De Niro"

Y’all nikkas was obsessed with that shyt

we admired the cinematic work of the movie..