Near human-like levels of consciousness" have been observed in the African gray parrot

[Mr. Somebody]

Good point friend
you should think about that very deeply


You are getting way ahead of yourself
I think you are arguing things that you made up
here is what I stated

go back and see what you thought I stated


Good point friend
you should think about that very deeply

Im reaching beyond your thoughts to the end game. What are the capabilities of this bird and do you call a human being something that just repeats things you say and is basically a glorified toy? Lets respect nature though

 

[Poitier]

i was looking for this vid for my original response but I'm only just finding it now
IMO, it makes the following points
-Humans, though possibly having the greater potential to not being parrots, are the bigger parrots by nature
This actually is an evolutionary advantage for the world in which evolution forged humans
-Parroting may be a fundamental part of learning and acting human

Monkey/ mirror neurons help learning but that isn't the only process by which humans do

 

[tmonster]

Im reaching beyond your thoughts to the end game.

You fabricated my thoughts and argued against said fabrication

What are the capabilities of this bird and do you call a human being something that just repeats things you say and is basically a glorified toy? Lets respect nature though

The quality is in the very reaction of the spectators, it is because they sense humanness that they are surprised and laugh.

The showcase itself flips the Uncanny Valley phenomenon on it's head

For yucks:zfg:

 

[tmonster]

Monkey/ mirror neurons help learning but that isn't the only process by which humans do

so the fukk what?:zfg:

 

[Mr. Somebody]

The quality is in the very reaction of the spectators
The showcase itself flips the Uncanny Valley phenomenon on it's head

For yucks:zfg:

 

[tmonster]

cross post
another strange flip on perception of consciousness

 

[Blackking]

Monkey/ mirror neurons help learning but that isn't the only process by which humans do

You need to make a point. How you demonstrate passion on a subject but not make an actual point-- is beyond me Poitier.


Also, the entire subject of how organisms see themselves in the world and consciousness in general... is subjective so.. I'm not sure how you keep replying to posters with snoop similes.

Human's have a mind.... Animals have a brain, Friend. There aren't evolutionists that disagree that humans are different and really shouldn't even compared to lesser animals.


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The TOP animals, like dolphins, parrot, elephants, dogs, etc all have recognition of self. Humans have Self-consciousness.

All animals are programmed.. and reacted to training and learning Only based on basic programming... Human QA their own code with morals, values, position in the world, ego, wisdom, and views on spirituality/life n death.

 

[Poitier]

You need to make a point. How you demonstrate passion on a subject but not make an actual point-- is beyond me Poitier.


Also, the entire subject of how organisms see themselves in the world and consciousness in general... is subjective so.. I'm not sure how you keep replying to posters with snoop similes.

Human's have a mind.... Animals have a brain, Friend. There aren't evolutionists that disagree that humans are different and really shouldn't even compared to lesser animals.


art
humor

The TOP animals, like dolphins, parrot, elephants, dogs, etc all have recognition of self. Humans have Self-consciousness.

All animals are programmed.. and reacted to training and learning Only based on basic programming... Human QA their own code with morals, values, position in the world, ego, wisdom, and views on spirituality/life n death.

no

 

[tmonster]

You need to make a point. How you demonstrate passion on a subject but not make an actual point-- is beyond me Poitier.


Also, the entire subject of how organisms see themselves in the world and consciousness in general... is subjective so.. I'm not sure how you keep replying to posters with snoop similes.

Human's have a mind.... Animals have a brain, Friend. There aren't evolutionists that disagree that humans are different and really shouldn't even compared to lesser animals.

you are going to have to elaborate a bit on that, good luck friend. I don't envy you.

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The TOP animals, like dolphins, parrot, elephants, dogs, etc all have recognition of self. Humans have Self-consciousness.

All animals are programmed.. and reacted to training and learning Only based on basic programming... Human QA their own code with morals, values, position in the world, ego, wisdom, and views on spirituality/life n death.

this has been shown false experimentally

 

[Blackking]

you are going to have to elaborate a bit on that, good luck friend. I don't envy you.

this has been shown false experimentally

You know exactly what I mean.... humans and animals have a brain... only humans have sentience and subjectivity... ntm the abilities to even debate these things.

Experimentally it has also been shown to be true. Right now nearly all of science leans on the side of it being true. You only have a few very very far fetched experiments to demonstrate otherwise.


Peace. (something that animals can't comprehend)

 

[Mr. Somebody]

i was looking for this vid for my original response but I'm only just finding it now
IMO, it makes the following points
-Humans, though possibly having the greater potential to not being parrots, are the bigger parrots by nature
This actually is an evolutionary advantage for the world in which evolution forged humans
-Parroting may be a fundamental part of learning and acting human

Im sure a gorilla could play a game of pong friend. What applications does this have for our world? None.

 

[tmonster]

Im sure a gorilla could play a game of pong friend. What applications does this have for our world? None.

you keep fabricating thoughts for you to argue with and I don't understand why

 

[tmonster]

You know exactly what I mean.... humans and animals have a brain... only humans have sentience and subjectivity... ntm the abilities to even debate these things.

Experimentally it has also been shown to be true. Right now nearly all of science leans on the side of it being true. You only have a few very very far fetched experiments to demonstrate otherwise.


Peace. (something that animals can't comprehend)

too much logical fallacy ambush

 

[Blackking]

too much logical fallacy ambush

what i said is simple and well-known fact. Not fallacy.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

you keep fabricating thoughts for you to argue with and I don't understand why

Im saying its not enough to be considered human, friend.