Nearly every Native American woman in Seattle survey said she was raped or coerced into sex

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You disagree :ohhh:
yeah i dont think we should pat ourselves on the back for not living in a society so restrictive we cant even discuss a disgusting situation like this.

we should be doing this:
Either your part of the problem or you're part of the solution. Have you devoted your own life to the struggle, for your own community or for people like these women? If not, why not? You got a short-ass life left to live and if you don't do it, who the hell will?
 

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They been doing this shyt since they came over and "discovered" Amerikkka.:francis:
and natives were doing the same thing before the white man even got here.

Raping, pillaging and complete genocide of other tribes was very common.

regardless, that isn't the point here. the fact that ppl (regardless of where they came from) can be completely disregarded and treat like shyt in their own "supposedly" first world country (US and Canada, etc.) is fukkin bullshyt.
 

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What's the ethnicity of the predators?
doesnt say in the article. i would imagine a mix between other native people (a lot of sexual predators are people in the victims close circle or family) and whites (white people have historically seen native women, like black women, as easy targets who they can assault without likely repercussion).
 

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yeah i dont think we should pat ourselves on the back for not living in a society so restrictive we cant even discuss a disgusting situation like this.

we should be doing this:
bruh, you DO realize we are living in the safest, most peaceful time in history right?

the fact that this shyt like this is changing, and the fact that less of this shyt is occurring means we are moving in the right direction.

Progress isn't binary, it's not one day it was bad and the next it is good. We need to continually get better, and addressing this stuff is a huge start.
 

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bruh, you DO realize we are living in the safest, most peaceful time in history right?

the fact that this shyt like this is changing, and the fact that less of this shyt is occurring means we are moving in the right direction.

Progress isn't binary, it's not one day it was bad and the next it is good. We need to continually get better, and addressing this stuff is a huge start.
i dont think the correct response to that is to pat ourselves on the back. we should always be looking to move forward. i dont think its appropriate to read about how almost every native woman in seattle has been sexually assaulted and go
:yeshrug: shyts been worse.
 

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i dont think the correct response to that is to pat ourselves on the back. we should always be looking to move forward. i dont think its appropriate to read about how almost every native woman in seattle has been sexually assaulted and go
:yeshrug: shyts been worse.
I also don't think it's fair to see a single report of less than 150 people and assume that almost every single native woman in seattle has been sexually assaulted. Attention grabbing headlines like 94% of all native woman have been sexually assaulted doesn't help.

regardless, nothing wrong with a pat on the back if it means you are heading in the right direction. Human behaviour is positively influenced, so it's human nature to want to feel good about progress. it would be better to highlight the good in society and garner support that way than it is with trying to guilt ppl or make ppl feel like shyt.
 

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Slightly off topic, but I was watching this segment about the rape of Rohinya women in Myanmar last night.


It really made me a pose a philosophical question for men. And I'm unsure how I feel about it myself....



Basically the question is, could you marry a woman who was gangraped, then had a child as a result of this rape?

This is extremely problematic among the Rohinya culture because victims of rape and women with children out wedlock are heavily stigmatized in that society. There's an unprecedented number of rape victims in Myanmar. Rohinyan women who were raped are essentially seen as outcast in their society.....

But they were raped of no fault of their own.....

So the question once again is....could you be with a women was gangraped and had a child as result of this crisis? If no man wants to wed these women or they continue to be culturally outcast, then what becomes of these women. Most of the women who are and have been raped are as young as 14.

:dwillhuh: these are some hard questions.
 

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Society? Our species has been this way across the globe for all of recorded history(and before I’m sure).

Things are slowly changing :obama:which a testament to how for we’ve come. We should be praising the fact this is even being openly discussed
and natives were doing the same thing before the white man even got here.

Raping, pillaging and complete genocide of other tribes was very common.

regardless, that isn't the point here. the fact that ppl (regardless of where they came from) can be completely disregarded and treat like shyt in their own "supposedly" first world country (US and Canada, etc.) is fukkin bullshyt.
stop going against the narrative :jayfdup:
 

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Slightly off topic, but I was watching this segment about the rape of Rohinya women in Myanmar last night.


It really made me a pose a philosophical question for men. And I'm unsure how I feel about it myself....



Basically the question is, could you marry a woman who was gangraped, then had a child as a result of this rape?

This is extremely problematic among the Rohinya culture because victims of rape and women with children out wedlock are heavily stigmatized in that society. There's an unprecedented number of rape victims in Myanmar. Rohinyan women who were raped are essentially seen as outcast in their society.....

But they were raped of no fault of their own.....

So the question once again is....could you be with a women was gangraped and had a child as result of this crisis? If no man wants to wed these women or they continue to be culturally outcast, then what becomes of these women. Most of the women who are and have been raped are as young as 14.

:dwillhuh: these are some hard questions.

I don't think it's a hard question at all. That she's a victim doesn't make her less of a person. :yeshrug: Sure, probably has baggage to deal with from that, but everybody has baggage. Like you said, it's not her fault so why should I hold her to a consequence of not being able to be intimate with another human being because of something some monster did.
 

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i dont think the correct response to that is to pat ourselves on the back. we should always be looking to move forward. i dont think its appropriate to read about how almost every native woman in seattle has been sexually assaulted and go
:yeshrug: shyts been worse.
it's an alt right account that changed it's username and pic....just ignore it
 

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yeah i dont think we should pat ourselves on the back for not living in a society so restrictive we cant even discuss a disgusting situation like this.

we should be doing this:
Progress is progress... society is moving in the right direction. That’s a positive and shouldn’t be spun or presented as anything else.
:yeshrug:
We shouldn’t discount how difficult it is to change societal norms.
I’m glad we are where we are, and look forward to further gender equality.

:russ:@ not automatically condemning our society making me alt right.
Liberals are too much.
 
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