Need A Legit 2nd Option? Holla at Us... 2017 Bulls Off-Season Thread

[philmonroe]

so you want our center to be floating around the perimeter right?

have no problem with that, but our team isn't built for that. I need to see Hoi-ball work but he would have been great for a GSW or Boston.

I just don't wanna see us on the perimeter hoisting 3's and being out rebounded and out toughed...that's not Bulls basketball

Why the fukk do you think we hired Fred? Lol They wanted to play like a GS or Cavs and that's why they hired dude. Look how the offense is supposed to work on YouTube. We didn't have a team fit for that and now these dummies finally trying to get a team that fits what they hired dude to do. I don't know if it'll work but I knew what they was trying when they hired dude.

 

[100Percent]

Anyone know of any opportunities for us to do what brooklyn just did? Take some bad salary and a pick or some solid young talent for a year of wade?

 

[beenz]

you doubt he get's maxed? Based on what?

He will get max or close to the max, you know some a$$hole team will give it to him too - off potential. You remember Asik? He wasn't supposed to get a max deal either. I could go down the list, someone will take a flyer on Lavine.


i actually am appalled at your optimism on this. Most people say a full year but you think he will be back sooner (which he may), you aslo don't think he will get a max deal, and then mention the bulls will have more space when they show themselves to be cheap a$$holes.

in a world where 31 year old al horford makes $27M annually, u already know that some dumb gm will put all their chips in on lavine.

 

[LEEeveryday]

@LEE Everyday changed his name so I can @ him now

Hell yeah breh... That cursive shyt was OD and it was annoying trying to sign back in with it..

 

[Brozay]

@Malta drop some thoughts please

been too busy to keep up with what people think

im relatively satisfied, got 3 young pieces. we need to get our star in next years draft. we should be top 3 IMO

 

[Perfectson]

You can make the same case for "building around Butler" too. We don't know who's coming to the Bulls or how they fit with Butler. You're just being overly pessimistic cause you're emotional.

i'm dealing with reality, where's the pessimism. you guys are out of your minds

 

[Perfectson]

We had the answer to that problem last night
This why the j bell move was dude was our defensive beast...They love niko that much

Now they gotta waste a future pick on something they would've had already

I didn't like the Bell pick for us over IG, but if you told me we were goign to give up assets for money I'd be as well.

It's almost the opposite of what you do when you rebuild. If they are trying to get money to land a big free agent then why trade Butler....none of it makes sense.

 

[LEEeveryday]

Call me crazy brehs, but I still want Okafor....

Pair him with the Marksman and we should get eaten alive in the paint. Which is perfect for the tank right?

 

[Malta]

@Malta drop some thoughts please

been too busy to keep up with what people think

im relatively satisfied, got 3 young pieces. we need to get our star in next years draft. we should be top 3 IMO

I like Dunn, especially if you can get him involved with Lauri in the high screens, the key with him is getting rid of everyone in his way and giving him as much time as possible and allowing him to play through his mistakes. I'm not sure what he's been doing in the offseason but I hope he's been taking 1000 shots a day since the season ended, his jumper is literally what separates him from being a very good player, or outright terrible. Lauri isn't a bad look either as long as you put the right players next to him, basically your PF in the future needs to be able to do the things he can't while also being able to shoot to really maximize the spacing.


I was high on LaVine before the knee injury, but it's his plant leg that he tore his ACL in and that's a long recovery period. I'd bring him back as slowly as possible, I know he's up for a new contract soon but he needs to be protected from himself & rushing back if you want him to become that 20+ ppg scorer. It would be a full year before I let him back on the court, he'd get Feb/March/April to work off some of the rust but I'd keep him on a minutes restriction.

They did lose the trade, mainly because I'm sure they could have gotten more for him but it's a situation like the Kings/Pelicans had where somebody really loved Hield so much so that they gave up Boogie for not a lot. It's obvious the Bulls are incredibly high on Dunn & LaVine, so you have to look at the trade from that vantage point a bit, they've wanted those two guys for a year now.

 

[Perfectson]

I do expect the bulls to be defensively awful next season.

there's nothing for me to argue, you have an opinion on the future but I'm a fan and I don't like losing period. I don't believe in "tanking" either that's bullshyt. If you tell fans we don't want to compete this year so we can land better draft picks, then let that reflect in the ticket prices for the sub-par product you are purposely fielding.

It's bullshyt....fans at least want the illusion that a team is trying to win and compete. maybe I'm wrong...i just don't see how any fan wants to lose on purpose and with these idiot GMs who can't put a cross word puzzle together.

If they can draft Bamba or one of the many PFs in next years draft having a soft C like Lauri isn't that big of an issue.

they just had shot blocking PF they gave to GSW, they also could have had Ike .

This was not a smart job saving move for GarPax. Theres a big chance that all 3 of these guys end up getting exposed as non-starters. Make things worse we're going to have to pay Lavine after a year coming off an injury so itll be hard to tell what hes worth.

We also can evaluate if hoiball can actually work since this lineup is much more suited to his coaching style. Theres a lot of ways that GarPax can be exposed in a way that I dont believe even Jerrys bytchass can ignore.

exactly

they went all in on Hoi-berg ...this isn't a real tank , that's just an excuse . Hoiberg said let me show you my style of basketball works or I'm going back to the NCAA , so they gave him his personnel. Hoiberg didn't want Butler there, especially after he called HOiberg out as being soft.

 

[Perfectson]

I like Dunn, especially if you can get him involved with Lauri in the high screens, the key with him is getting rid of everyone in his way and giving him as much time as possible and allowing him to play through his mistakes. I'm not sure what he's been doing in the offseason but I hope he's been taking 1000 shots a day since the season ended, his jumper is literally what separates him from being a very good player, or outright terrible. Lauri isn't a bad look either as long as you put the right players next to him, basically your PF in the future needs to be able to do the things he can't while also being able to shoot to really maximize the spacing.


I was high on LaVine before the knee injury, but it's his plant leg that he tore his ACL in and that's a long recovery period. I'd bring him back as slowly as possible, I know he's up for a new contract soon but he needs to be protected from himself & rushing back if you want him to become that 20+ ppg scorer. It would be a full year before I let him back on the court, he'd get Feb/March/April to work off some of the rust but I'd keep him on a minutes restriction.

They did lose the trade, mainly because I'm sure they could have gotten more for him but it's a situation like the Kings/Pelicans had where somebody really loved Hield so much so that they gave up Boogie for not a lot. It's obvious the Bulls are incredibly high on Dunn & LaVine, so you have to look at the trade from that vantage point a bit, they've wanted those two guys for a year now.

At least you're being honest about Lavine. I also see him coming back in 2018, not in 2017 like some posters.

I can't be low on Dunn after 1 year, but he looked horrible on offense for a 23 year old player with 4 years college...usually those things don't just turn around. I also trust Thibs judgment on players and if he didn't see it in Dunn that speaks volumes to me.

Lauri is good for hoi-ball or for Boston/GSW basketball where they are okay with giving up rebounds because they play hellacious defense and at a pace on offense that they get open jumpers. I don't see this being a good pick right now for the Bulls. I keep watching film on him and trying to see how he fits but i can't get past his weak frame, lack of rebounding, and poor defense. continued one dimiensional players , and of course they are a "certain type" as well.

 

[FooFighters]

What free agent will want to be here next offseason ..


The disrespect Shown from this front office when they're star player


Pledges his loyalty to the club and wants to stay in Chicago and build something .. rather than join a super tea

But 2 days later is traded away...

That's been happening with this team since the Jordan years

 

[Malta]

they just had shot blocking PF they gave to GSW, they also could have had Ike .
.

Bell is a specialist, he's not the long term answer at PF/C next to Markkanen. You want someone more dynamic to fill that role, next years draft is loaded with guys who project as being better than Bell. GSW traded for him because he's going to be a role player that fills out their bench.


Robert Williams
Mo Bamba
DeAndre Ayton
Wendell Carter

Those are the 4/5s in next years draft, they all have a higher ceiling than Bell and project as starters.

 

[Malta]

At least you're being honest about Lavine. I also see him coming back in 2018, not in 2017 like some posters.

I can't be low on Dunn after 1 year, but he looked horrible on offense for a 23 year old player with 4 years college...usually those things don't just turn around. I also trust Thibs judgment on players and if he didn't see it in Dunn that speaks volumes to me.

Lauri is good for hoi-ball or for Boston/GSW basketball where they are okay with giving up rebounds because they play hellacious defense and at a pace on offense that they get open jumpers. I don't see this being a good pick right now for the Bulls. I keep watching film on him and trying to see how he fits but i can't get past his weak frame, lack of rebounding, and poor defense. continued one dimiensional players , and of course they are a "certain type" as well.

I think almost all the PGs last year were awful outside of Brogdon, asking these rookies to come off the bench is difficult, especially for PGs. Dunn was in a tough spot because Rubio clearly wanted to keep his job, I think he'll look much better with the ball in his hands a lot with the Bulls, just gotta get rid of Rondo and Wade.

 

[Trapperman Dave]

Bulter trainer ripping Gar:I've met drug dealers with better morals