Nelly: I'm The Only Rapper From My Era To Gain Success Without A Co-Signer

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UGK came out with no co-sign and were the first from Port Arthur.


:wtf:

UGK was the exact opposite.

for starters, UGK werent stars, they were regional guys.

they didnt have any national relevance until like year 15 after 1,000 constant cosigns from texas, georgia & louisianna rappers. THE POLAR OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.



After Luda had already got himself hot.
I never knew and im sure most aren’t familiar with their affiliation. Face didn’t jump on any singles or promote him like that.

Luda would’ve popped no matter where he signed imo. Again, I don’t think most rap fans know they even have a relationship.
Its not like 50/Em, Em/Dre, To a lesser extent Boosie & Webbie to UGK, etc.


ehh. if you think scarface had nothing to do with ludacris blowing up, thats cool. but you cant turn around and credit boosie/webbie to UGK, when boosie/webbie blew up in markets where people couldnt name a UGK song.:laugh: even i myself had no clue that pimp c was involved with trill ent until years after he died.:

now as for luda, it wasnt really about the scarface cosign. it was about ludacris being the launching pad for def jam south in general. it was the def jam cosign.

and i do agree that ludacris wouldve blew up regardless, but his career arc wouldve been completely different. he wouldve made that novelty rap money for a few years and wouldve been long forgotten.
 
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Literally the only negative I can say about Nelly is that he sabotaged Murphy Lee and held him back. Otherwise, :manny:
He didn’t hold Murphy Lee back at all, he pushed Murph when nobody wanted him around. How do you think Murphy Lee could get on Shake Ya Tailfeather, you know damn well Diddy wasn’t asking for him.
 

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It must cause y'all physical pain to acknowledge that a nikka is right and keep it moving:mjlol:

That's the type of shyt that happens when your debut album sells 10 million copies breh:mjlol:

Not really. His very next album had mad features and that's all I said, but get your shyt off.

First album is only one that matters lol. He was already a certified megastar but then.

That's fair, but dude making it sound like he never had help. Hot in Herre popped because it was a Neptunes beat as much as Nelly's lyrics. Dilemma popped for the same reasons with chorus.
 

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Didn’t Mase and his manager found him?


thats not a cosign.

nobody even knew about that until nelly already had 2 diamond albums under his belt.

most people still dontr know about the connection.


Not really. His very next album had mad features and that's all I said, but get your shyt off.
That's fair, but dude making it sound like he never had help. Hot in Herre popped because it was a Neptunes beat as much as Nelly's lyrics. Dilemma popped for the same reasons with chorus.


neptunes aint even do nothing to that beat.

that chit is a str8 sample of bustin loose.

:mjlol:


Yea his first hits didn’t have national stars on them tho


huh?

the first national lil jon hit had ludacris and too short on it.
 
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I’d say Lil Jon is the right answer for getting hot with no prior co-sign. But Nelly at his peak was bigger than Lil Jon at HIS peak. Nelly had a RED HOT five year streak.

Wrong, Jermain Dupri/So So def cosigned Lil jon back in '92, four years before who you wit came out
 

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Not really. His very next album had mad features and that's all I said, but get your shyt off.



That's fair, but dude making it sound like he never had help. Hot in Herre popped because it was a Neptunes beat as much as Nelly's lyrics. Dilemma popped for the same reasons with chorus.
He said he gained success without a cosign

How did he gain success????

By having a diamond debut album
 
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