Neo-Libs brehs acting like they don’t know what “Defund The Police” means.

[HimmyHendrix]

Y’all can support Biden without the cap.

nikkas in here pretending that “defund the police” means to make them poor, to bankrupt them or even hire less of them, to take their jobs and to take their pensions and health insurance. If you defund the police by 50% right now their lives don’t change, the amount of hires don’t change, and no jobs are lost. They are drastically overfunded as we speak.

The quote is about police unions and departments are extremely overfunded. They have so much funding they don’t know what to
Do with and it hasn’t worked.

police unions are so powerful because of funding, which is why they
abuse overtime,
rack up thousands of complaints and settlements that taxpayer have to pay for
Steal time on the clock
Pay the best lawyers to beat cases
Can investigate themselves if wrongdoings
And police unions and departments are almost always better funded than that school districts they serve
Are allowed to be in some of the worst physical condition and still patrol
Get billions in tactical military equipment that they never use.

defund the police means to stop overfunding them and to put that money into infrastructure, education, government programs and ACTUAL police training.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

That fact that a slogan has to be explained in a goddamn paragraph and is so easily misinterpreted makes it a bad slogan.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

That fact that a slogan has to be explained in a goddamn paragraph and is so easily misinterpreted makes it a bad slogan.

Y’all sound like white people during the civil rights movement and ANTI-BLM cacs from 2012-2014

the only time a slogan needs to be explained to people In paragraphs is when the recipient already has an agenda or is being deliberately obtuse.
If you can take it for what it is, it’s simple

“By any means necessary”
“black lives matter” (the saying not the organization)
“Defund The Police”

The response is always “wELL tHaT cAn bE tAkEn iN sEvERaL wAyS” and not just doing the research yourself or taking it for what it is, a slogan,
Which are designed to promote thought and promote movements, force acknowledgement and most importantly, inspire dialogue.

when it’s something you agree with? It can be simple and vague.

the second people don’t agree with something, it has to a perfectly worded slogan, that can fit a thesis worth of information, into a three word slogan that rolls right off the tongue.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Y’all sound like white people during the civil rights movement and ANTI-BLM cacs from 2012-2014

the only time a slogan needs to be explained to people In paragraphs when the recipient already has an agenda or is being deliberately obtuse.
If you can take it for what it is, it’s simple

“By any means necessary”
“black lives matter” (the saying not the organization)
“Defund The Police”

The response is always “wELL tHaT cAn bE tAkEn iN sEvERaL wAyS” and not just doing the research yourself or taking it for what it is, a quote.

when it’s something you agree with? It can be simple and vague.

the second people don’t agree with something, it has to a perfectly worded slogan, that can fit a thesis worth of information, into a three word slogan that rolls right off the tongue.

Good political slogans are straight and to the point, they shouldn't require research. Black Lives Matter means just that. Dumbass conservatives tried to make it into "white people don't matter" but that is an interpretation that implies something not directly said in the slogan.

Defund the police means just that. Take money away from the police. It doesn't require any inference to get that meaning. It says what it says. It doesn't say, "demilitarize the police" or "disempower police unions" it says "DEFUND THE POLICE". Hell, some far leftists straight up said, "Defund and abolish the police".

There's no twisting of meaning, there's people taking words at face value.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

Black Lives Matter means just that. Dumbass conservatives tried to make it into "white people don't matter" but that is an interpretation that implies something not directly said in the slogan.

proving my point
you doing that now.
Defund the police means just that
it Means “stop giving the police money” that’s it. But since you don’t agree, now it’s just tooo deep

Defund the police is actually a lot more to the point than Black Lives Matter

Defund the police is taking away money from the police
Black Lives Matter is a call to acknowledge the entire 400 year history of black suffering and to invest in the preservation of our bodies and our future.

 

[ViShawn]

It was a stupid fukking slogan to begin with.

We've seen a spike in crime in many areas. These white people spout that bullshyt while living in good communities and it affects our communities the worst.

I understand police reform, education, and even limiting police presence.

These same Defund The Police people say ACAB / All Cops are Bad/b*stards so it's hard to take them seriously or this dumb ass slogan.

 

[Remote]

That fact that a slogan has to be explained in a goddamn paragraph and is so easily misinterpreted makes it a bad slogan.

You’re correct.
I’m to the left politically but democrats are the WOAT at messaging.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

We've seen a spike in crime in many areas.w

that is financial instability
That is lack of jobs
That is poverty and that is lack of mental health facilities
That is urban decay due to infrastructural and education negligence by the government

none of that gets remedied by “more cops”.
That gets remedied with investments, not taxpayer dollars going to fukking cops

 

[HimmyHendrix]

You’re correct.
I’m to the left politically but democrats are the WOAT at messaging.

That’s not a democratic quote, it’s a leftist quote. Dems are center right

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

proving my point
you doing that now.
Defund the police means just that
it Means “stop giving the police money” that’s it. But since you don’t agree, now it’s just tooo deep

It's not that it's "too deep". It's that most people don't agree with it. When called on that, people start juelzing saying the other shyt you said like, "it's not about taking money from cops, it's about redirecting funds to community programs!"

They know how "defund the police" looks to people who are actually victims of crimes.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

They know how "defund the police" looks to people who are actually victims of crimes

I know how Black Lives Matter exist to people who are victims of crime and I know how it looks to cacs with cognitive dissonance who really believe that there is no racism in America.

its not for them, it’s for the masses

the masses would benefit from defunding the police.

If crime is an aggressive violent person cops are minor sedatives. They’ll keep the person down until it wakes up again, and the process will keep getting repeated. Investments in infrastructure, health care, and education, are therapy to said perSon. So that said the person can improve, without the need to be put down. And be a member of society

If you think better education, better infrastructure better health care, wages and jobs wouldn’t be better for poor communities than overpolicing, than I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[ViShawn]

that is financial instability
That is lack of jobs
That is poverty and that is lack of mental health facilities
That is urban decay due to infrastructural and education negligence by the government

none of that gets remedied by “more cops”.
That gets remedied with investments, not taxpayer dollars going to fukking cops

Yes I get that and understand. My city council passed a defund of the police. This reduce the presence of the police force to what it was in 2013 all while the city is rapidly increasing in population. We also saw homicide rates reach the highest it's been in 20 years.

Some of the money that went to defunding gutted Internal Affairs which BTW investigates the police department and police corruption. If you have a fender bender you call another number. Break-ins or suspicious people you call another number, not law enforcement, which BTW response times for LEO is already long.

Some of the money went to abortion clinics which I don't think the small Black community here needs.

The positive is we have constitutional carry here as we are a gun friendly state.

They are looking at the funding of the police here but would rather build a dog park than stave off the gentrification that goes on here.

I get your perspective though. Still think Defund The Police is a silly slogan.

BTW nice to truncate what I said. I didn't say I was for over policing. I agree with limiting police presence and even taking the law in your own hands.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

OP is lying.

Just admit Defund the Police is sloganeering so we can try to move on to serious police reform.

 

[voltronblack]

OP is lying.

Just admit Defund the Police is sloganeering so we can try to move on to serious police reform.

That not going to happen

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

When is OP gonna go back to using his other account, and why are we allowing a non-Black person to call people 'nikkas'??

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