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Man I wish there were some more viable Democratic nominees

The Democratic establishment does not favor that level of competition.

There shouldn't be only one antiwar candidate on stage (well 2 if you count O'Malley). We know that's a major sticking point for Democrats, but who really leads the anti war conversation on a national level for the Dems? Nobody.

There should be a viable black Democratic candidate - even if he only polls at O'Malley's level or lower. Dems don't have that, but for some reason we're told the black vote is important.

There should be a viable hispanic/latino Democratic candidate.

There should be more than one woman running for the Democrats (but Elizabeth Warren fell back because she saw the clusterfukk a mile away).

As bad a candidate as Jim Web is/was, how is it that we can't find another serviceman in the military capable of building a national following? I'm not with stupid wars, but is there no one in the Democratic party that can speak to military engagement in a way that captures the ear of war hawks and makes them listen to pragmatic views on military involvement?

One really has to wonder why the Democratic party cannot build viable candidates that are able to relate to all corners of the Democratic electorate and force fruitful conversations on the debate stage.

Am I the only person that thinks its weird that 70 year old jewish guy from brooklyn has to be the woman candidate, anti war candidate, union candidate, black candidate, and hispanic candidate wrapped in one?

Then we wonder why folks don't feel motivated to vote during midterms when they're not voting for the President. They have no candidate, no momentum to propel them to go vote.

But this is what happens when you stifle the thoughts and views of people who have a dissenting opinion with the establishment. Anything that differs from Obama is shut down for fear that the Republicans can/will use it against him in attack ads.
 

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The Democratic establishment does not favor that level of competition.

There shouldn't be only one antiwar candidate on stage (well 2 if you count O'Malley). We know that's a major sticking point for Democrats, but who really leads the anti war conversation on a national level for the Dems? Nobody.

There should be a viable black Democratic candidate - even if he only polls at O'Malley's level or lower. Dems don't have that, but for some reason we're told the black vote is important.

There should be a viable hispanic/latino Democratic candidate.

There should be more than one woman running for the Democrats (but Elizabeth Warren fell back because she saw the clusterfukk a mile away).

As bad a candidate as Jim Web is/was, how is it that we can't find another serviceman in the military capable of building a national following? I'm not with stupid wars, but is there no one in the Democratic party that can speak to military engagement in a way that captures the ear of war hawks and makes them listen to pragmatic views on military involvement?

One really has to wonder why the Democratic party cannot build viable candidates that are able to relate to all corners of the Democratic electorate and force fruitful conversations on the debate stage.

Am I the only person that thinks its weird that 70 year old jewish guy from brooklyn has to be the woman candidate, anti war candidate, union candidate, black candidate, and hispanic candidate wrapped in one?

Then we wonder why folks don't feel motivated to vote during midterms when they're not voting for the President. They have no candidate, no momentum to propel them to go vote.

But this is what happens when you stifle the thoughts and views of people who have a dissenting opinion with the establishment. Anything that differs from Obama is shut down for fear that the Republicans can/will use it against him in attack ads.


This is neo-liberalism for you
 

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The Democratic establishment does not favor that level of competition.

There shouldn't be only one antiwar candidate on stage (well 2 if you count O'Malley). We know that's a major sticking point for Democrats, but who really leads the anti war conversation on a national level for the Dems? Nobody.

There should be a viable black Democratic candidate - even if he only polls at O'Malley's level or lower. Dems don't have that, but for some reason we're told the black vote is important.

There should be a viable hispanic/latino Democratic candidate.

There should be more than one woman running for the Democrats (but Elizabeth Warren fell back because she saw the clusterfukk a mile away).

As bad a candidate as Jim Web is/was, how is it that we can't find another serviceman in the military capable of building a national following? I'm not with stupid wars, but is there no one in the Democratic party that can speak to military engagement in a way that captures the ear of war hawks and makes them listen to pragmatic views on military involvement?

One really has to wonder why the Democratic party cannot build viable candidates that are able to relate to all corners of the Democratic electorate and force fruitful conversations on the debate stage.

Am I the only person that thinks its weird that 70 year old jewish guy from brooklyn has to be the woman candidate, anti war candidate, union candidate, black candidate, and hispanic candidate wrapped in one?

Then we wonder why folks don't feel motivated to vote during midterms when they're not voting for the President. They have no candidate, no momentum to propel them to go vote.

But this is what happens when you stifle the thoughts and views of people who have a dissenting opinion with the establishment. Anything that differs from Obama is shut down for fear that the Republicans can/will use it against him in attack ads.

Damn you said it better than I could. That's why I get so frustrated with the party. There should have been at least 5-6 in the primary. It's a damn shame that the party keeps coming back to Hilary and she is terrible
 

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@tru_m.a.c that's a disappointing excuse for elizabeth warren. she would have been a problem.

She would've.

I don't think she ever had aspirations of being President. We can call her short sighted, but I think it's a bit admirable. I think her views on being President is a result of her political leanings and academic background. The senate seat is not a stepping stone for her. We need politicians, on both sides of the aisle, that view their duties to the public in this light.
 

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Damn you said it better than I could. That's why I get so frustrated with the party. There should have been at least 5-6 in the primary. It's a damn shame that the party keeps coming back to Hilary and she is terrible

When the political process (or even party) is corporate owned, this is what you get.

I give right wing voters a lot of grief but one thing I give them tremendous credit for is seeing the neo-liberal agenda and fighting against it. (I don't think they are looking in the right place) But I give them tremendous credit for being able to at least see the forest from the trees

Many democratic voters are still on the forest floor
 

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