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yeah but you got to keep in mind that the recent terrorist attacks are not the decisive factor that lead to their rise...it was bound to happen....so the problem is much more complex....

sure, it hasn't helped the muslim cause here in France that the attacks happened...but let's not act that the french haven't thrown all the african and muslim immigrants in huge ghettos and didn't want to integrate them...and kept them at a distance...this has been going on since the 2nd world war, when they started nringing people from their former colonies to come and help them rebuild the country...but when that has finished, and it was the time to devided the fruits of all people's labour, the french basically said 'fukk off'
I agree entirely. Very interesting period for immigrants in Europe coming up.

So what's their plan here then when they get power? Will they completely ban non white immigration? I can't imagine them deporting over 10million non whites.
 

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Well for one conservative chicks tend to be hotter than liberal chicks. If you get turned on by women in politics it makes sense.

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my biggest question is what is the end game exactly? deportation?

i don't think it will go down like that but still, there is a fundamental difference in dealing with immigrants for example between UK and France...I've spent time in UK and France as well...

the immigrants in UK seem to be a bit better integrated into society and economy, and the racial tensions seem to be less common than in France

the problems arise from their different perspectives of dealing with former colonies, on one hand you have the french way, which is total integration, basically saying that once you have french nationality, you are french, the state and relligion are separated (which i kinda agree with) hijabs and burkas are prohibited for example in public institutions like schools, city halls etc....and on the other hand you have the british way, which basically lets you be with your own culture as long as you pay taxes and work legally and obey the law...
 

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I agree entirely. Very interesting period for immigrants in Europe coming up.

So what's their plan here then when they get power? Will they completely ban non white immigration? I can't imagine them deporting over 10million non whites.


I have no ideea, deportation is not the anwser because logistic wise is not sustainable..

but they will limit the immigration that is for sure, for east europeans like romanians, bulgarians, polish etc.

now is relatively easy for the people from the former colonies to get french nationality, and once a family member got french nationality, they can easily bring their wife, kids, parents etc...so one measure which they will take for sure is to limit the access to the nationality....
 

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yeah it's gonna go downhill from here...I'm a foreigner living and working in France....if they come to power in 2017 presidential elections, it's gonna be a rough day for foreingers here in France

it should be stated that the rise of FN in popularity was bound to happen eventually, the Charile Hebdo and the recent terrorist attacks only speed up their rise o popularity...

And also, their father Jean Marie Le-Pen (old guy with glasses in the last picture) is much worse than both the daughters Marechal Le Pen and Marine le Pen...they kicked him out of his own party that he created due to his extreme views...he wants all foreigners out, even like jewish , portughese, spanish descendants..

fair enough to them, they say that if you respect and obey the french way of living, you'll be alright....meaning you basically have to renegade you own culture and adopt the french...

Agree with all of this but quite interesting is that their is no one "french" culture, which people from the right and far right casually forget...I know France, Belgium and Italy a litlle bit and France is def the country that has integrated foreigners the most of the three over the course of it's history. Just by it's geographic position and historic importance it's easilly understandable, so the "French" culture is a mix in itself. Hell Sarkozy is the son of Hungarian immigrants, Valls's family is from Spain, Hidalgo's too, and let's not even talk about artists and sportsmen/women. Philippot's (basically FN's number 2) grand-mother was Polish.

Didn't the father and marine le pen have a real disagreement over public comments he made about jews? From the limited knowledge I have on the french national front, marine is trying to change it more into a 'civic' nationalist party and she thinks the old style anti semitiism blaming everything on the jew harmed the party as she thought the neo nazi label would create an image she didn't like?

She is obviously the brains behind the operation, you aren't going to have a successful nationalist party in a european country if the media are able to label you as nazis.

True 100 %. Unfortunately french people don't really follow european politics because their alliances at that level reveal their true nature much clearer.

Cant say it hasn't been coming. You can't expect the French to just sit back and watch their land turn into sharia land. If you don't like it, leave.

Which is far from being the case anyway.

yeah but you got to keep in mind that the recent terrorist attacks are not the decisive factor that lead to their rise...it was bound to happen....so the problem is much more complex....

sure, it hasn't helped the muslim cause here in France that the attacks happened...but let's not act that the french haven't thrown all the african and muslim immigrants in huge ghettos and didn't want to integrate them...and kept them at a distance...this has been going on since the 2nd world war, when they started nringing people from their former colonies to come and help them rebuild the country...but when that has finished, and it was the time to devided the fruits of all people's labour, the french basically said 'fukk off'

Actually they didn't say "fukk off", which is precisely how the families of the immigrant workers came to France. And it's not only african and muslim immigrants (which actually are often the same) who went to live in HLMs in the banlieues but poor immigrants (including Italians, Spaniards, etc). But for sure the whole HLM/banlieues issue has been treated badly for decades now.

I have no ideea, deportation is not the anwser because logistic wise is not sustainable..

but they will limit the immigration that is for sure, for east europeans like romanians, bulgarians, polish etc.

now is relatively easy for the people from the former colonies to get french nationality, and once a family member got french nationality, they can easily bring their wife, kids, parents etc...so one measure which they will take for sure is to limit the access to the nationality....

Yeah one understated aspect of the FN's rise is that they are anti-Europe too so they want to get out of Schengen, the Euro, and eventually the European Union itself.
 

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Agree with all of this but quite interesting is that their is no one "french" culture, which people from the right and far right casually forget...



Actually they didn't say "fukk off", which is precisely how the families of the immigrant workers came to France. And it's not only african and muslim immigrants (which actually are often the same) who went to live in HLMs in the banlieues but poor immigrants (including Italians, Spaniards, etc). But for sure the whole HLM/banlieues issue has been treated badly for decades now.
all valid and good points, yeah my bad, you are right the first wave of european immigrants in France were italian,spanish, portughese and polish

and when I was reffering the 'french culture ' i was mainly referring to the french values that defien their society like: laicity, minimum wage, womens rights, workers/unions rights etc

honestly the division of state and relligion is by far one of the best things going on here in France...
 

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all valid and good points, yeah my bad, you are right the first wave of european immigrants in France were italian,spanish, portughese and polish

and when I was reffering the 'french culture ' i was mainly referring to the french values that defien their society like: laicity, minimum wage, womens rights, workers/unions rights etc

honestly the division of state and relligion is by far one of the best things going on here in France...

It's all good breh :salute:

Actually I discovered at the Cité nationale de l'immigration (dunno if you're in Paris, if so you should try to check it out) that the first sizeable immigrant community were...the Belgians, I had no idea (I'm Belgian-Central African, living in Paris)

And they were treated like shyt too, the usual : "they're coming for our jobs, taking our women, etc". It's ALWAYS the same pattern, regardless of the origin. Obviously over the years it's easier for white europeans to "blend in" but all nationalities go through that phase.
 

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It's all good breh :salute:

Actually I discovered at the Cité nationale de l'immigration (dunno if you're in Paris, if so you should try to check it out) that the first sizeable immigrant community were...the Belgians, I had no idea (I'm Belgian-Central African, living in Paris)

And they were treated like shyt too, the usual : "they're coming for our jobs, taking our women, etc". It's ALWAYS the same pattern, regardless of the origin. Obviously over the years it's easier for white europeans to "blend in" but all nationalities go through that phase.
yeah I'm in Paris....I might check it out, sounds interesting...

that is true, I guess..I'm a Romanian CAC, and with the whole gypsy problem they have here, whenever my work colleagues ask me about my nationality and I mention that I am romanian, they check their wallets afterwardson some:troll:..it leaves me :stopitslime::comeon::sadcam:
 

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yeah I'm in Paris....I might check it out, sounds interesting...

that is true, I guess..I'm a Romanian CAC, and with the whole gypsy problem they have here, whenever my work colleagues ask me about my nationality and I mention that I am romanian, they check their wallets afterwardson some:troll:..it leaves me :stopitslime::comeon::sadcam:

Yeah Romanians have this issue too, I know this Romanian girl in Belgium and she told me she often gets the :mjpls: when she says where she's from
 
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