New Hampshire Democratic Debate - (2/4/16 - 9PM EST)

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What an intellectually dishonest and disingenuous thing to say.

And there are many aspects of Ben Carson's bio that have already been debunked. He wasn't even a great neurosurgeon.

Plus, his presidential campaign was badly mismanaged and only served as an ATM for him and his cronies.
except being the chief of his department for all those years :francis:
 

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These shytbirds are some of the worst candidates ever, post-Jim Crow and slavery. What a horrible fukking selection of blatant shytheads all across the board, with literally no foreign policy and a domestic policy ranging from dumb fake Evangelical Davey Crockett bullshyt, to dumb subsidized pipe dream Bono bullshyt.

nikkas getting on stage like, "Ain't you tired of rich people having shyt? Well I'll make em pay for more shyt for you than ever before! My opponent likes rich people, that nikka ain't serious about giving each of y'all a diamond-studded unicorn like I am.". Dems have a 2-term Dem President who's so shytty they can't campaign on his record, and out of that lot these kids have boosted a shytbird socialist Jew Senator and a lying bytch of a former Secy of State.

How you gon campaign on populist outrage when you and your opponent were both in DC fukking shyt up? You gotta be a real jerkoff to get inspired by these a$$holes. Millennials have gotta be the biggest generation of jerkoffs since the Industrial Revolution, if for nothing else but having access to the most information of any generation and using it to put up these shytbird candidates.

If you know how stupid their policies are, you know they are basically debating about who can jerk off faggy millennials and wrinkled liberals better.
 

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All Bernie would have to do to stop her on her claim's of being a true progressive is recite her own words of being a progressive or moderate back to her.
Or recite back a few of her contradictions/lies going up to recent years and then compare it to his.
Why doesn't he do this?

There is soooo much material out there on Hillary for this strategy. It's just a bit too early in the game though. You're not going to win by going for the jugular. You have to break down her campaign from multiple angles - i.e. getting the youth out to vote, increasing campaign contributions, more face time on national tv, big endorsements

You're essentially fighting the Democratic Party right now.
 

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These shytbirds are some of the worst candidates ever, post-Jim Crow and slavery. What a horrible fukking selection of blatant shytheads all across the board, with literally no foreign policy and a domestic policy ranging from dumb fake Evangelical Davey Crockett bullshyt, to dumb subsidized pipe dream Bono bullshyt.

nikkas getting on stage like, "Ain't you tired of rich people having shyt? Well I'll make em pay for more shyt for you than ever before! My opponent likes rich people, that nikka ain't serious about giving each of y'all a diamond-studded unicorn like I am.". Dems have a 2-term Dem President who's so shytty they can't campaign on his record, and out of that lot these kids have boosted a shytbird socialist Jew Senator and a lying bytch of a former Secy of State.

How you gon campaign on populist outrage when you and your opponent were both in DC fukking shyt up? You gotta be a real jerkoff to get inspired by these a$$holes. Millennials have gotta be the biggest generation of jerkoffs since the Industrial Revolution, if for nothing else but having access to the most information of any generation and using it to put up these shytbird candidates.

If you know how stupid their policies are, you know they are basically debating about who can jerk off faggy millennials and wrinkled liberals better.

Shut up stupid.
 

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its all good. again, i cant speak for others but i actually agree with most of you all when it comes to bernie. i like what he wants to do and his bottom line. AT THE SAME TIME, foreign policy is important to me and i dont think he is strong at all on that. i question the viability of his economic plans and th effect their failure would have on the rest of his plans, etc.

being willing to point out the faults in bernie and see the positives that hillary can bring doesnt mean i still dont think highly of him. and @barnone (edit: lol trying to find your old name just made me realize you are barnone lol) said a couple threads ago that we will probably get a president like bernie in 15 years anyway and i think thats true and dont have a problem with that
I don't know who BarNone is. :mjpls: Foreign policy to me is more about who is advising you than who you are. Clinton being advised by the same people as Rubio and Cruz makes me uncomfortable and her record just is not good with Iraq, Libya, and Syria. It's just not. Sanders would mirror Obama on foreign policy. He pretty much just goes with that (not counting treaties). But the bigger thing is, look around you. In Canada, Corbyn in the UK, and all over Europe. The entire world is pushing for left-leaning candidates. Sanders may be more naturally aligned with our allies than Hillary in 2020.

As for the viability of his economic plans, asking candidates for specifics is pointless -- they change once you get in office. You're better at looking at priorities and general ideas of how to get it done. What I do know is that he will fight to get money out of politics and even if college is not free, he will put a lot of pressure on colleges to reduce costs and will reduce current student interest rates. Any other progressive idea that Hillary would get through, he would too. So you're looking at a higher ceiling with the same floor. Now if you don't think he can win, that's one thing. But if you do, there's no point in not voting for him. Worst case scenario he ends up having to push through legislation that Hillary would have without the war tendencies. Hillary Clinton was just cosgined by Henry Kissinger, that is not a good thing.
 

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people forget how fukked up bush made this country, we need not to split the democratic party vote and risk giving the house back to the republicans... gas is less then 2 dollars here :mjcry:, muthafukka driving just to drive agian.

the republicans already have the house and senate though......
 

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:ohhh: well said
I've been trying to fight the progressive fight this time around when from 2009 to 2014 I was talking about what feasible. I think at this point, we have to change the range of options. I just look at the gay rights movement and they were just stubborn as hell for 20 straight years and in that time they had the fastest civil rights movement ever.
 

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While there’s a fair amount of uncertainty in the Republican race in New Hampshire (Donald Trump leads, but Marco Rubio is gaining, and multi-candidate races can change in a hurry) there’s little doubt about who’s likely to prevail on the Democratic ballot here. Bernie Sanders leads Hillary Clinton by nearly 21 points in our weighted polling average and is approximately a 99 percent favorite to win the New Hampshire primary next week, according to both our polls-plus and polls-only forecast models.

But wait — what about Clinton’s famous comeback in New Hampshire in 2008? That year, she was only about 8 points behind Barack Obama; her deficit with Sanders today is more than twice as large. We aren’t ruling anything out, but if there’s going to be a 21-point shift back to Clinton, she’s going to have to start by knocking it out of the park tonight.

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