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I'd think Faulk has a case too though, right? He is the blueprint of the multifaceted do it all back that is popular now, and had no real weaknesses. Even his pass protection was elite, he could pick up blitzers better than anyone else at the peak of his game when he wasn't split out wide...


I don't know if he has the numbers. Skill wise I think he's probably the top RB in this generation though.
 

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I still think Faulk was the most skilled RB to ever play. He was doing what CMC is doing today but in a much tougher league
 

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Ok a few things...


It wasn't JUST the oline... Smith had a team that was about 150 levels above any Lions team... He had a HOF qb and wr and defensive players out the ass... You can TRY and say the lines were equal, but we know they weren't... But lets say they were. The rest of the team and offense being better, is going to make your life a lot easier as a running back. They was loading 11 in the box for Barry :mjlol: They wasn't worried about shyt else






The next part is what truly made me speak on this... My man Jerry... There's a post on here that I love... That I wish more reporters and commentaters used... Jerry Rice's stats without Montana and Young.....

Stuart took a look at the numbers specifically during the Joe Montana and Steve Young years when Rice was playing without them. Over five seasons, that group of quarterbacks included Elvis Grbac (9 games), Jeff Kemp (6), Steve Bono (6), Mike Moroski (2), and Matt Cavanugh (1). Over 24 games, Rice caught 134 passes for 2,177 yards and 23 TDs. That creates an average season of 89 catches, 1451 receiving yards, and 16 touchdowns.

In 1999, he had 830 receiving yards and 5 scores, and the next season he had 805 yards and seven touchdowns. Far from great numbers, but he had a good excuse: Rice was 37 and 38 years old.

Of all the unbreakable records set by Rice, what he did in Oakland may be the most impressive. At age 40, he caught 92 passes for over 1200 yards.





Man don't bring Jerry up... That man was ELITE with straight up garbage QBs on garbage teams

:comeon:You dont load 11 in the box vs the run and shoot.
 

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Obviously not but the Lions o-line wasn't complete trash like people say it is just like the Cowboys line wasn't as all time good as it was hyped up to be. The Cowboys line from Zeke's rookie year was better in my opinion. My whole point wasn't to compare lines, it's to disprove that Emmitt was only good because of his o-line.
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Yeah I want to clarify, I don't think Emmitt isn't an All-Time great---->I do...

My question is more born out of seeing guys like LT and Faulk omitted, and asking what made Emmitt better than them. I know about the accomplishments and when i saw him play, he was still really good, but since i missed his absolute peak I can't firsthand say why I would place him over other guys beyond the volume stats...

So I think I wasn't clear in earlier posts. I think Emmitt was a great player, I'm just not sure or sold on what made him better than other All-Timers...

Faulk is probably the best back I've ever seen, peak-for-peak. LT, Ricky, AD are all up there too, so just using my frame of reference, it's hard to see what separates Emmitt from these guys other than longevity and cumulative totals because of it (which does matter), because when I saw Emmitt, he was still a top tier back but that was simultaneously as Faulk was dominating and just before LT and Ricky came of age, and the Emmitt i saw was good but not at that level...

@AvadaKadaBreh helped by describing what he was elite at. Apologies all around though for not being clear--->I do think dude is great, I just need some clarification myself...



im not that all that big on emmitt myself, but this list is moreso about the best careers as opposed to the best peaks or raw talent.

and even with me not being big on emmitt, dude was sneakingly great. I think his game was flashier in college, while in the pros, he wasn't the most dazzling. plus he definitely benefited from that cowboys line, and the passing & running games boosted each other to another level. he definitely wouldn't have the record on another team. but at the same time, the fact that he still remained sharp years afterwards and lasted so long, I cant really knock him on that end either.
 

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I'm not discrediting Jerry Rice for what he did. He is definitely the GOAT WR. The longevity factor and teammates aren't used to discredit anyone but Emmitt Smith and I'm not cool with that. I'm also not getting into team arguments. I'm not here to debate that. I'm sick of the double standards. @The Devil's Advocate Rice still had the advantage of playing with elite talent at QB and had longevity but people don't hate the 49ers like they do the Cowboys.
Cowboys will always be most hated. I don’t know the history but they are more hated than the cheating winning pats. They are the Yankees really. No matter how good or bad, they’ll always be hated and loved by the most people. They are just magnetic for some reason
 

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If you had to bet a lot of money who would you say is a lock to still be here for the 150th anniversary team.
 
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