NFL Week 11 Random Thoughts Thread

[Trip]

why even have tackles then ? shyts disgusting

i agree

 

[ManxOfxThexYear]

rams tryna kill these denver players

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

the unneccessary roughness

The official rule calls out hits to the head of the defenseless reciever and leading with your head to hit a defenseless reciever, it does not require you to make a play on the ball.

Edit: but it also calls out hitting the shoulder, so I guess it was the correct call.

shytty rule

 

[yseJ]

Edit: but it also calls out hitting the shoulder, so I guess it was the correct call.

shytty rule

wait it does ?

 

[Trip]

wait it does ?

I believe so...they're trying to eliminate the bang bang play.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

wait it does ?

The following is taken from the 2011 NFL Rule Book (pages 73-74) and defines players who are in a defenseless posture. The material is also covered in the 2011 League Policies for Players Manual, distributed to all players in training camp.

It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture.

(a) Players in a defenseless posture are:

(1) A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass;

(2) A receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner. If the receiver/runner is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player;

(3) A runner already in the grasp of a tackler and whose forward progress has been stopped;

(4) A kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air;

(5) A player on the ground at the end of a play;

(6) A kicker/punter during the kick or during the return;

(7) A quarterback at any time after a change of possession, and

(8) A player who receives a “blindside” block when the blocker is moving toward his own endline and approaches the opponent from behind or from the side.

(b) Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:

(1) Forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him; and

(2) Lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or forehead/”hairline” parts of the helmet against any part of the defenseless player’s body.

Note: The provisions of (2) do not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or helmet in the course of a conventional tackle on an opponent.

Penalty: For unnecessary roughness: Loss of 15 yards. The player may be disqualified if the action is judged by the official(s) to be flagrant.

Rule is worse than I thought


http://nflcommunications.com/2011/12/27/definition-of-a-defenseless-player/


Edit upon edits: I misread that, shoulders are NOT supposed to draw a penalty. That's if you lead with the shoulder to the defenseless players head or neck area

 

[yseJ]

Rule is worse than I thought

http://nflcommunications.com/2011/12/27/definition-of-a-defenseless-player/

but this hit was shoulder on shoulder, no ? it didnt look that bad to me, its a hard shoulder on shoulder hit, the biggest reason dude had a concussion was because he was diving for the ball.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

but this hit was shoulder on shoulder, no ? it didnt look that bad to me, its a hard shoulder on shoulder hit, the biggest reason dude had a concussion was because he was diving for the ball.

I misread that. It's not a penalty.

Like I said the nfl's decision on whether to fine him will clarify things

 

[JLova]

RG3 won't be in the league in two years. I've said it elsewhere, all he can throw are flare routes. Rodney Harrison didn't have to put him on blast but it is true, he can't read defenses.

The dude has started for how long? Yall got 0 patience. Reading defenses comes with experience and RG3 hasn't even put together 2 full seasosns of football yet.

 

[resurrection]

The dude has started for how long? Yall got 0 patience. Reading defenses comes with experience and RG3 hasn't even put together 2 full seasosns of football yet.

In 2014, it doesn't take that long to know if your young QB is the future of the franchise or not

 

[JLova]

In 2014, it doesn't take that long to know if your young QB is the future of the franchise or not

Well, he looked like a franchise QB in his 1st season. Then he's been dealing with injuries the last 1 1/2 years. To write him off now would be premature. He may need to go somewhere else, though. The damage is done.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Well, he looked like a franchise QB in his 1st season. Then he's been dealing with injuries the last 1 1/2 years. To write him off now would be premature. He may need to go somewhere else, though. The damage is done.

Shanahan gave him one read and he didn't throw downfield

 

[El Bombi]

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

@Eye Cue 182

Wtf at "strugglecuts" getting play outside of the coli. Did a double take when I saw this.

how long until someone says it on air

 

[duncanthetall]

In 2014, it doesn't take that long to know if your young QB is the future of the franchise or not

After seeing players like Tannehill and Mallett improve over the years I think there's a chance we can rethink that