Nikbag Goes In On Jay-Z's Picassco Baby & Elliott Wilson

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Also, there are many artists discussing current and future tech through their art in much cleverer ways than giving away their album through samsung u serious bruh?

Dude in the video summed Jay up in two words, four syllables "Cor-Por-Rate Whore"


If hip hop was the Matrix

KRS

Lauryn Hill

Pac

(That's gone really make em mad)

Jay Z

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Dude in the video summed Jay up in two words, four syllables "Cor-Por-Rate Whore"


If hip hop was the Matrix

KRS

Lauryn Hill

Pac

(That's gone really make em mad)

Jay Z

LMFAO so true

 

[sporticus]

Nigguhz aren't allowed to speak on art and philosophical issues or else they're trying to be white or catering to people they don't belong with. As though white, rich people own art and higher thought. Real crab-in-a-barrel shyt right there. Dude has some points tho, I mean Jay-Z is extremely calculated in everything he does. However, let the man be interested in something he isn't 100% known for. Aren't we allowed to have interests? Or better ourselves?

 

[CrimsonTider]

Hov and Bey were at the 2nd Inauguration of the 1st black president of the united states. A rapper...a marcy projects hustler was a personal guest of the President...the Leader of the free world....it may not all be there in his raps...but what he's managed to become is game changing in and of itself. i understand what this guy is saying and can agree with many of his points. i personally hate the Picasso baby video. i couldn't get past the first 3 minutes and haven't seen anything of it. but the fact hov' had his album alongside the actual magna carta....that doesn't say anything about new rules? what it means to change the game? do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?

still they want to act like its some everyday thing...

lol @ comparing jay to davinci, basquiat, aristotole, etc.

the shyt jay do is not art. its generic samsung corporations sponsored commercials ads trying to be passed off as art ok.

Hiphop is art and Jay is hiphop.

 

[Insensitive]

Lets get a couple things straight

I never said Lil B is changing the game or that Lil B is a better rapper than Jay

I never said Jay wasnt an artist

I DID say that at this point in the game I enjoy Lil B's music more than Jay's which is still true

You seem real tite that a nikka doesnt rock with the same artists you do ONE YOURSELF ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS

I don't care that you don't like artists that I like.

Proven? Jay hasnt had a completely solid album since 2001. And 2 of his last 3 were downright BASURA. I never said Lil B was perfect... I would say 1 out of every 3-4 of his songs are listenable. He drops a lot of doo doo. But you take 5-7 tracks off of 7-8 mixtapes a year... for me, dude put out more enjoyable music last year, than Jay has in the last decade. I really dont give a shyt how many records so and so sold or whatever... if its wack, its wack. And BP3 + KC were wack.

And you may not have explicitly stated that Jay-Z isn't an "artist" or that "Lil B is better" but
I think it's pretty obvious what you implied here.


No one is "taking it serious" but I guess that's the route people
have to take when they're called out on their opinions
For the record I have no beef with you and
I don't wanna repeat myself so I'll just say what I said last time :

It's ironic that a fan of an intentionally wack rapper can
launch criticism at an established and proven act like Jay-Z
yet can't offer up the same critiques for a rapper he openly
sings praises for.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I don't care that you don't like artists that I like.




And you may not have explicitly stated that Jay-Z isn't an "artist" or that "Lil B is better" but
I think it's pretty obvious what you implied here.


No one is "taking it serious" but I guess that's the route people
have to take when they're called out on their opinions
For the record I have no beef with you and
I don't wanna repeat myself so I'll just say what I said last time :

I dont do implications, I say what I mean

I am fine with discussing my opinion and things I say; I dont like for people to twist shyt I say around to fit their agenda or discredit me

The fact that you are discussing Lil B in a thread about a Jay Z video says more about you than me

Now go ahead and pretend like you don't care as if you didn't @me or start this whole exchange

 

[Durrbrowski]

Mate we're gonna argue semantics from here on out but you still didn't prove me wrong. Basquiat although having alot of critics was still considered a darling of that 80s new york. Miss me on whether you consider his art good or not because we're not talking about that and I don't even like his art.

Secondly, yes michealangelo and davinci didn't get along (I don't see how this is a relevant point outside of you trying to e-flex your knowledge onto me) but michaelangelo was for a lack of better terms, a hater and he didn't get along with raphael either (or anyone for that matter, he was a paranoid nikka) if I remember correctly. Out of the trio davinci was seen the father to them nikkas (I hope you get what I'm saying cos we both know davinci didn't birth their styles but was seen as the guy michaelangelo and raphael had to surpass to cement their legacies (which they both did imo imo breh)). Also, nothing of what you ssid changes the fact he was seen as a top 3 artist of his time that's a fact. And I could give a fukk if jay-z will go down in history (which will obvs happen) but that blogger nicca is right, jay is trying to pass himself off as a true artist when in reality he is the complete opposite of that, regardless of how many dikkriders he has. And even in this decade outside of 3 albums his music is largely forgotten. So much for being a great true artist. Get mad im actually pretty disgusted someone who has knowledge on art would try to argue jay-z of all people is an artist


But anyway, side topic but who're your favourite 3 artists? I never get the chance to discuss art on here so im gonna take my chance while its there

I stated the irony in people saying that jay z was not on the level of a basquiat or a davinci ...because these people were criticized much in the same fashion as jay z. Basquiat's art was seen as simple to some and brilliant to others...much like Hov's lyricism. Like Divinci being worshipped as a genius and mimicked by some....and criticized and hated by others, for example Michelangelo....is similar to a drake or jcole or more of the venomous haters wishing Jay would just stop...and grow more insulted and annoyed by each new 'work of art' or album that jay puts out. The parallels are rather obvious...and the hate is the same. That was my statement.

You took it upon yourself to prove this false. In reality you've proved nothing and simply helped reinforce my statement. You saw an intelligent observation and in classic beta male fashion desperate for attention...tried to discredit what is a fact...not merely an opinion. And now to further this debate and try to make yourself feel more adequate and self righteous ....you pathetically attempt to patronize me.

Stop. Say something meaningful...or just offer your opinion on the bloggers statement. Don't even try to fukk with my truth.

 

[Elle Driver]

lol @ comparing jay to davinci, basquiat, aristotole, etc.

the shyt jay do is not art. its generic samsung corporations sponsored commercials ads trying to be passed off as art ok.

And exclusively gave a million free copies out to Samsung customers so he could get that plat certification from the RIAA. Was this album even necessary? He needs to take a cue from other rappers, you don't need to bring out a fukking album if you ain't got shyt to say.

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

I stated the irony in people saying that jay z was not on the level of a basquiat or a davinci ...because these people were criticized much in the same fashion as jay z. Basquiat's art was seen as simple to some and brilliant to others...much like Hov's lyricism. Like Divinci being worshipped as a genius and mimicked by some....and criticized and hated by others, for example Michelangelo....is similar to a drake or jcole or more of the venomous haters wishing Jay would just stop...and grow more insulted and annoyed by each new 'work of art' or album that jay puts out. The parallels are rather obvious...and the hate is the same. That was my statement.

You took it upon yourself to prove this false. In reality you've proved nothing and simply helped reinforce my statement. You saw an intelligent observation and in classic beta male fashion desperate for attention...tried to discredit what is a fact...not merely an opinion. And now to further this debate and try to make yourself feel more adequate and self righteous ....you pathetically attempt to patronize me.

Stop. Say something meaningful...or just offer your opinion on the bloggers statement. Don't even try to fukk with my truth.

Ok breh. Stop crying. Your 'truth' is still your opinion, not fact

At least you agree with what I said, since you stated it reinforces your points. Thanks

 

[Durrbrowski]

Ok breh. Stop crying. Your 'truth' is still your opinion, not fact

At least you agree with what I said, since you stated it reinforces your points. Thanks

...I agreed with points you made reinforcing my statement? ...My original statement that you leeched off...and are continuing to try to gain recognition for from your peers with quips and forced sarcasm. Truth is not an opinion. You are not amusing.

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

...I agreed with points you made reinforcing my argument. My original argument that you leeched off...and are continuing to try to gain recognition for from your peers with quips and forced sarcasm. Truth is not an opinion. You are not amusing.

Can you please stop babbling on and quoting me. Your posts do not interest me anymore.

Thankyou

 

[Consigliere]

Dude in the video summed Jay up in two words, four syllables "Cor-Por-Rate Whore"


If hip hop was the Matrix

KRS

Lauryn Hill

Pac

(That's gone really make em mad)

Jay Z

LOL @ Pac being Neo when Neo could dodge bullets.

 

[Durrbrowski]

Can you please stop babbling on and quoting me. Your posts do not interest me anymore.

Thankyou

All your peers just witnessed you get Ethered. I don't blame you wanting to deflect the attention now nikka. And you are trying to dismiss me with the same directness that I finished you with. It's apparent you have no identity of your own...that's very Hov like of you.

Now remember who I am the next time you get the inclination to say some slick shyt.

Dipset bytch.

 

[Mikael Blowpiff]

All these statements about Basquiat sound more like Lil B than Jay.

 

[Smitty Belafonte]

This dude don't know shyt bout Picasso or Davinchi that's obvious. And some of the things he said bout Jay is blatant hate. Jay being the biggest biter, bad performer etc. I can't take this serious cuz no objectivity. He can't stand the fact that Jay is rich.