No conspiracy: The Plane & The Pentagon

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Btw, I wasn't trying to imply your bias means what you're saying is false.

I don't have a bias. I think the Gov't. is guilty of negligence and the 'official' story makes more sense than anything the 'Truthers' have ever put forward.​

 

[USSInsiders]

I've never used such a thing in this entire thread. I don't have to.

Inconsistencies =/= conspiracy.

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It's circumstantial, but I don't believe the official narrative.

 

[USSInsiders]

I don't have a bias. I think the Gov't. is guilty of negligence and the 'official' story makes more sense than anything the 'Truthers' have ever put forward.​

We all have bias so that's bull shyt in of itself, but if you believe their story that's on you. I don't.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

We all have bias so that's bull shyt in of itself, but if you believe their story that's on you. I don't.

I don't have one regarding this incident. I'd like to find out the absolute truth, but that's impossible, so I'll go with the most probable scenario.

You really have no evidence to falsify the 'official' story and have to make fallacious arguments.

That's telling.

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[USSInsiders]

I don't have one regarding this incident. I'd like to find out the absolute truth, but that's impossible, so I'll go with the most probable scenario.

You really have no evidence to falsify the 'official' story and have to make fallacious arguments.

That's telling.

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So you're wagering on the official story because it's more probable, got it. I like the underdog in this one.

 

[DaddyTime]

I don't have a bias. I think the Gov't. is guilty of negligence and the 'official' story makes more sense than anything the 'Truthers' have ever put forward.​

Negligence. Right... If not for 9/11 events, you have to know that the U.S would end up in the middle east around the time they did anyway, no? A reason would be needed. The Pentagon has far too much surveillance to be playing the "we just didn't expect it" game.

I'm sure Saddam also hid those WMD really well and wasn't fukking the game up by wanting to move oil in gold rather than U.S dollars (as did Gaddafi)

Believe everything they want you to hear and ignore common sense when they spew pseudo science breh, what was their explanation for this again?

Oh yeah, "debris" from the the other towers.

But I'm just a "truther," "conspiracy" theorist for using my own head

 

[DaddyTime]

So you're wagering on the official story because it's more probable, got it. I like the underdog in this one.

Funny thing is, the official story doesn't sound all that probable

 

[USSInsiders]

Funny thing is, the official story doesn't sound all that probable

Tell that to @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited

 

[USSInsiders]

Negligence. Right... If not for 9/11 events, you have to know that the U.S would end up in the middle east around the time they did anyway, no? A reason would be needed. The Pentagon has far too much surveillance to be playing the "we just didn't expect it" game.

I'm sure Saddam also hid those WMD really well and wasn't fukking the game up by wanting to move oil in gold rather than U.S dollars (as did Gaddafi)

Believe everything they want you to hear and ignore common sense when they spew pseudo science breh, what was their explanation for this again?

Oh yeah, "debris" from the the other towers.

But I'm just a "truther," "conspiracy" theorist for using my own head

Breh get outta here with this psychobabble truther shyt.

 

[DaddyTime]

Breh get outta here with this psychobabble truther shyt.

debris drops buildings daily b

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Negligence. Right... If not for 9/11 events, you have to know that the U.S would end up in the middle east around the time they did anyway, no?

Too bad you can't prove ANY of that. What we CAN prove is negligence on the part of the US Gov't.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Funny thing is, the official story doesn't sound all that probable

It sounds more probable than ANYTHING Conspiracy Theorists have managed to hack together.

While there is not one shred of evidence the government blew up the World Trade Center, there is evidence that they used the tragedy to remove Saddam Hussein using poor WMD evidence.

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[DaddyTime]

Too bad you can't prove ANY of that. What we CAN prove is negligence on the part of the US Gov't.​

Prove any of what? Other than the FACTS I posted, the only thing I can't prove is the U.S inevitably would have landed in the middle east... and in all honesty

You going to say WT Building 7 didn't exist? You going to say debris dropping it sounds "PROBABLE?" There are other buildings the same distance to the twin towers that weren't damaged...

Saddam/Gaddafi weren't hiding the want for change. Gaddafi wanted a centralized currency among Africa.



Yeah, we can prove negligence alright. Not in the way you're claiming though.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Prove any of what?

Building 7 came down as a result of debris from Tower 1 falling on it which gouged out most of the South Wall of the building and caused a fire that went uncontrolled for a few hours which further weakened the structure to the point it collapsed. Most people didn't see what was going on from the angles shot by news crews so they were under the impression that it just fell for no reason at all or was part of a controlled demolition. Footage was released later that shows the uncontrolled fires in Building 7 while the hole was witnessed by Emergency Response crews.

Whole story with footage here.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Rare-footage-shows-WTC-7-consumed-fire.html

There are other buildings the same distance to the twin towers that weren't damaged...

ORLY?​

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As you can see from the graphic below, all the buildings just as far away from both towers as WTC7 were hit. The others were either very short buildings which didn't have to support a massive load above or had no fire. Only Building 7 had unfought fires and the massive load of 40 stories above them.

http://www.webcitation.org/5IuRwM61d

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Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we'll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.

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[Deezy314619]

I want you to seriously think for a minute as to exactly how many people would have to be 'in' on the whole thing in order to pull off something of this magnitude without anyone else on the entire planet knowing any better for 13 years.​

Not making a joke but I want to frame this in an example we can readily relate to. In the movie 'The Dark Knight' (the Batman movie w/ Heath Ledger) the Joker robs a mob bank w/ several ppl. None of these ppl knows each detail of the entire heist. That's the key to any conspiracy or plan involving sensitive info. Almost no one can know every detail because then the objective would be compromised.

Still, I'd imagine they would have to put these explosives in the ceiling of certain floors and which leave dirt, dust all kinds of stuff in there offices which the white collar employees of the WTC would have noticed there working area was messy and dirty, also I'd imagine it take longer than a week to setup two, 110 floor buildings plus the basement and 7 WTC for demo.

Also, how to you stop someone that's in on the "job" from snitching and exposing the government's "inside job"? I would imagine they would use your every day, middle class working man to setup the explosives inside the building, how do you stop one of them from gossiping about it to there friends and family?

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As well as the Bin Laden family (not Osama though ) helping BUILD the twin towers and demolitions being plated in the buildings before their construction.

I've never used such a thing in this entire thread. I don't have to.

Inconsistencies =/= conspiracy.

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The bolded is highlighted for it's irony. If there are holes or inconsistencies in ANY story there is a conspiracy, usually a lie. I've read this thread and to me, it appears you want to believe what you believe because you don't want to believe something more sinister was at hand. Lying to yourself.