1) it's easy to say "if you like her it's fine". Imagine if you were dating a guy that spent money going on dates with women in the past, but when he dates you, he's randomly cheap. You wouldn't feel some type of way?
The whole point that I and others have implied is that despite social convention criticizing women for having early sex, the whole point is that they still break that rule if they like you.
As a guy, from my perspective, it's hard for me to justify doing that.
And comeon. Not every woman is like you. Some are, but a lot won't budge. A lot still expect you as a man to stay do the bulk of the paying, leading, etc.
So why should I do that. And then not even get any sex out of it possibly if it turns out we don't like each other ? I basically spent money to find out I don't like someone. Of course it's not a problem for you because that expectation isn't on you. But it is for a guy. Of course you think it's just "silly complaining" though
And saying "date better women" is a stupid response. If it were that simple I wouldn't be discussing this.
My point is that you're romanticizing dating as a great experience for both parties and that we have all been bamboozled by the internet.
Of course you miss those days. In the scenario where you don't meet a guy that pressures you for sex, dating and romantic gestures end up benefitting the woman. I still gotta pay, plan, etc. And make sure that I prove myself of being worthy to some chick that probably, in all honesty, wouldn't make you go this far if she really likes you. Why should I waste time doing all this and going days, weeks, etc. Without sex? Especially since not every woman is some perfect altruistic angel.
Some of these chicks do this while still fukking dudes in the side. Others do it and lead you on for free meals. This happens. And these chicks aren't bringing anything else sometimes!

It does happen like that. Maybe not with you but with others it does.
This is why a lot of guys don't want to do this shyt. I won't do it. The early stages of dating really isn't this "fun experience" for a lot of men. It's annoying. This is why i asked if you are unaware or not. Because I thought it's obvious why men aren't doing this anymore.
I'm not saying yall women can't have that, I'm just explaining why most guys won't take part it in. After all, plenty of women abstain from shyt they've dealt with from men. Men are doing the same thing now. I wish women had a sign on their head indicating if they are good or not.
It's hard to even explain why it legit gives me bad feelings.
Read my reply to the other poster right above this for an analogy to see if you can understand.