No Job, Loads of Debt: Covid Upends Middle-Class Family Finances

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What’s crazy is the lady who was a lawyer doing foreclosures would have been eating off other peoples misery if it weren’t for the ban.
she could've been a tenant lawyer, there's tons of them out here

Don't drive, only use Lyft.
not seeing how this is necessarily better. i have a friend who did/does this and said she was spending $400-500 month on uber/lyft. that doesn't seem more economical than paying $250/month for a camry or some shyt
 

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So @gabbo is entirely right in his thesis. Car notes should be treated as liabilities and not assets and therefore having a high car note is financially stupid.

However, I can't say I'm 100% behind it. A few years back I was earning real well and could afford a bucket list item. I've always dreamed of owning a Benz and I made it happen. I bought a 2-yr used E350 (literally half the cost of a new one by that point). Paid 36k total. Before this car, I had bought a Camry for 22k and before that I had hand me downs. Tired of Camry's and hand me downs, I splurged on the Benz. Put 11k down(most was trade in from Camry) and monthly payments are around $420. That was double what my monthly was on the Camry but at the time I could easily afford it. Repairs on the Benz are atrocious. If its going to the shop, minimum $1k bill. There's obviously pro's and con's of owning a nicer car but in the end I gotta say I'm really glad i did it because it was a lifelong goal of mine and I made it happen by the time I was 30. Certainly don't recommend this path for most people, especially if youre trying to budget properly, but sometimes you have to treat yourself :yeshrug:

Also - I drove about 30k miles per year at the time and a 1.5hr commute so I wanted something comfortable, luxurious, and with some serious acceleration for when I gotta zoom pass people on the highway.

Congrats. I splurged on a 2012 C300 with less than 10K miles on it for my first car at 24. Should be paid off within the next year and still only has <65K miles since I work remotely in the city.

Potentially, I could sell it for more than I owe on it right now, putting into the asset category. But I will probably just keep it at this point. I feel like the maintenance costs are a relative drop in the bucket if you're an auto enthusiast.

I'm frugal when it comes to tech and entertainment though.
 

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she could've been a tenant lawyer, there's tons of them out here

not seeing how this is necessarily better. i have a friend who did/does this and said she was spending $400-500 month on uber/lyft. that doesn't seem more economical than paying $250/month for a camry or some shyt

yeah, the phrasing suggests it's advice, but I was just saying I do that. For sure there's months where I spend a few hundred, but not every one, so it's less of a fixed cost. Plus, a car is insurance/gas/repairs/tickets, looking for parking. Obviously not everyone can, but single, living in a metro area, it works for more and more people.
 

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ehh, i'd rather have a high monthly payment than drain my cash reserves that could be earning a higher rate of return sitting there as a lump sum vs having to save it month by month again. getting 8% from the market >>> the 0-4% interest you're paying financing a car

They not investing their cash reserves. They spending the cash reserves on other shyt. Hence their predicament :mjlol:
 
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