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[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Where's this shyt of me going ghost when things don't work out - straight after Paul went off in Game One I WAS RIGHT THERE----

Ain't surprised Clippers took this. OKC needed an adjustment game coming off the grind of the Memphis series - while Clippers went from jumpshooting team to jumpshooting team. KD needs to cut that pull up shyt though and take it to the rim.

Any thoughts on Chris Paul, breh? :wonka:

He had a hot game - isn't that what a 'superstar' is suppose to do?. Props to him. But he ain't gonna shoot like that again.

I love the quotes you're furious

You're delusional. Ain't nobody furious. It's one game. You gonna be furious once I post that Harden thread tho.

Lmao I been telling you to have fun posting that dumb shyt or dont for days now.

Be surprised when the best point guard in the world balls out, brehs.

Then Westbrook ended up shyttin on CP0 for the rest of the series and you blamed the refs when I tagged you

WHERE WAS YOU TALKING shyt AT THE END OF THE LA/OKC SERIES? WHERE WAS YOU TALKING BOUT CHRIS PAUL BALLIN OUT WHEN WESTBROOK shytTED ON HIM?

Who looked dumb after LA lost the series and CP0 choked, after they were gloating after ONE GAME?


YOU MUTHAfukkA.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

@GoddamnyamanProf dont bring other dudes into this, you aren't slick trying to lead them astray.

GTFOH with this bullshyt. Did you not read the shyt I posted above? Are you slow on purpose

I SAID THAT THE THUNDER WEREN'T GOING TO WIN A SHIP WITH AN ISO-BASED OFFENSE

No you didnt. You said an isolation-based offense needs the right players to be successful, while I argued that an iso-based offense will NEVER be successful in terms of winning NBA championships and beating teams that play more cohesive ball and actually run plays. I said a true pg like Paul could run the offense and help make up for the fact that Brooks has a blank playbook. You said no, that wont work because they need the pg to shoot 25 times a game to be successful. That was the extent of our ongoing debate. Now idk what you may have said in other threads in other conversations. You may have said the complete opposite and contradicted yourself so you can later go back and find your bookmarks and quotes like "see, I was right!" Seems to be your m.o.

Im not bringing in or leading anyone, just an explanation of our situation and disagreements over the years and how we got to this point.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Where's this shyt of me going ghost when things don't work out - straight after Paul went off in Game One I WAS RIGHT THERE----














Then Westbrook ended up shyttin on CP0 for the rest of the series and you blamed the refs when I tagged you

WHERE WAS YOU TALKING shyt AT THE END OF THE LA/OKC SERIES? WHERE WAS YOU TALKING BOUT CHRIS PAUL BALLIN OUT WHEN WESTBROOK shytTED ON HIM?

Who looked dumb after LA lost the series and CP0 choked, after they were gloating after ONE GAME?


YOU MUTHAfukkA.

Uh I had a lot to say about that series after every game. Do you think because you didnt save the posts in your bookmark folder that they dont exist? Is that how it works?

The fact remains that if I didnt catch any Thunder, Clipper or Rocket game live during this playoffs, the results of who won were immediately spoiled when I logged in to the coli and see whether you were running your stupid mouth in my notifications or not. Same goes for your little bro @FlashGordon22 who I havent heard from since game 4.

 

[Broad Street Bully]

Why would I be mad friend? I'm playing with house money right now, I never envisioned in a million years the great one would still be out here at 38 playing for championships. Just like I'm sure you never thought Bean would be struggling to walk at 35

Speak to me when "da goat" plays more than 6 games in a season again, until then, may Duncan guide you to Islam.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

No you didnt. You said an isolation-based offense needs the right players to be successful, while I argued that an iso-based offense will NEVER be successful in terms of winning NBA championships and beating teams that play more cohesive ball and actually run plays.

No, I've been saying for the last two seasons (at least) that Thunder won't win a title until the have a proper offensive system + a coach that can implement this. I've said it countless times on here. CAN'T YOU fukkIN READ WHAT I POSTED AT THE TOP OF THIS PAGE ABOUT THE THUNDER'S TWO-MAN OFFENSE VS THE SPURS ?

I;'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOREVER..... i've even told you this multiple times....cotdamn... there's something wrong with your brain...

I said a true pg like Paul could run the offense and help make up for the fact that Brooks has a blank playbook. You said no, that wont work because they need the pg to shoot 25 times a game to be successful..

No i never said he needs to shoot 25 times a game. Stop talking in hyperboles. I said they need him to score. BECAUSE THEY DO. If he didn't keep his foot on the pedal and look to score more than pass... they wouldn't have made it as far as they did. Chris fukkin Paul wasn't going to score like that all throughout the playoffs and he wasn't going to help Perkins or Thabo score either... because they don't have an offensive skill set... Thabo missed WIDE OPEN shots all throughout the playoffs... and you think he would of made wide open shots if Paul was there instead? GTFOH

What about the bench players? Was Chris Paul going to help them score when he himself was sitting on the bench? GTFOH

You know why there was such a disparity in free throws between OKC and other teams, it was just because Westbrook's ability to drive continuously and put pressure in the defense.... either kept them in games or increased their lead. Paul wasn't going to do that.

They need ball movement, but they also need better offensive players and proper development. CHRIS PAUL ISN'T GOING TO GIVE THEM A BETTER SHOT AT WINNING THAN WESTBROOK DOES.

Once they get a better coach and a proper SG/C and bench.. then Westbrook won't need to look to score as much.... until then... their best shot at winning is when Westbrook is scoring for them. Because they don't have many other options/....

That was the extent of our ongoing debate. Now idk what you may have said in other threads in other conversations. You may have said the complete opposite and contradicted yourself so you can later go back and find your bookmarks and quotes like "see, I was right!" Seems to be your m.o.

No you idiot. You just can't read. This debate didn't get started because I said OKC were going to win a championship playing iso-ball... this got started because you said Chris Paul would increase their chances of winning, more than Westbrook would.... which I said was wrong... and the playoffs proved that. Westbrook was responsible for a number of wins all throughout the playoffs because of his scoring.

Im not bringing in or leading anyone, just an explanation of our situation and disagreements over the years and how we got to this point.

Just you lying about not saying Harden was better than Westbrook, you have a short memory. 99% of this board knows that no other PG in the league would have had this team in the WCF at a Game 6, other than Westbrook. No PG in the league was going to help Thabo, Perkins and the bench score to the point they would surpass the team's overall production... because they simply aren't good enough....

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Uh I had a lot to say about that series after every game. Do you think because you didnt save the posts in your bookmark folder that they dont exist? Is that how it works?

I don't save any posts. That's what the search tool is for. You're wrong again.

The fact remains that if I didnt catch any Thunder, Clipper or Rocket game live during this playoffs, the results of who won were immediately spoiled when I logged in to the coli and see whether you were running your stupid mouth in my notifications or not..

The amount of times that happen, should prove to you how wrong you were in the first place. You got a lil moral victory in Game One when CP0 went off, tagging me... after that you barely mentioned my name..... because you couldn't... because you were proven wrong GAME AFTER GAME AFTER GAME.

Westbrook showin up CP0 and Harden getting exposed.....

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

It's funny how everytime you're proven wrong, you try to switch the argument, all types of shyt: jumping to conclusions on what you think I said and getting mixed up with what somebody else said. Now you think I said iso-ball can win championships over teams that implement ball movement (when i've preached against that very thinking for the last god knows how long), a while back you dreamt up this scenario that I was arguing Westbrook was more important/better than Durant, when I never made any suggestion of that... and you conceded by saying that you got me confused with other dudes that allegedly said Westbrook was better....

Half the time you don't even know what you're arguing for or against.... which gets you into trouble.... making yourself look like a fool.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

No, I've been saying for the last two seasons (at least) that Thunder won't win a title until the have a proper offensive system + a coach that can implement this. I've said it countless times on here. CAN'T YOU fukkIN READ WHAT I POSTED AT THE TOP OF THIS PAGE ABOUT THE THUNDER'S TWO-MAN OFFENSE VS THE SPURS ?

I;'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOREVER..... i've even told you this multiple times....cotdamn... there's something wrong with your brain...




No i never said he needs to shoot 25 times a game. Stop talking in hyperboles. I said they need him to score. BECAUSE THEY DO. If he didn't keep his foot on the pedal and look to score more than pass... they wouldn't have made it as far as they did. Chris fukkin Paul wasn't going to score like that all throughout the playoffs and he wasn't going to help Perkins or Thabo score either... because they don't have an offensive skill set... Thabo missed WIDE OPEN shots all throughout the playoffs... and you think he would of made wide open shots if Paul was there instead? GTFOH

What about the bench players? Was Chris Paul going to help them score when he himself was sitting on the bench? GTFOH

You know why there was such a disparity in free throws between OKC and other teams, it was just because Westbrook's ability to drive continuously and put pressure in the defense.... either kept them in games or increased their lead. Paul wasn't going to do that.

They need ball movement, but they also need better offensive players and proper development. CHRIS PAUL ISN'T GOING TO GIVE THEM A BETTER SHOT AT WINNING THAN WESTBROOK DOES.

Once they get a better coach and a proper SG/C and bench.. then Westbrook won't need to look to score as much.... until then... their best shot at winning is when Westbrook is scoring for them. Because they don't have many other options/....



No you idiot. You just can't read. This debate didn't get started because I said OKC were going to win a championship playing iso-ball... this got started because you said Chris Paul would increase their chances of winning, more than Westbrook would.... which I said was wrong... and the playoffs proved that. Westbrook was responsible for a number of wins all throughout the playoffs because of his scoring.



Just you lying about not saying Harden was better than Westbrook, you have a short memory. 99% of this board knows that no other PG in the league would have had this team in the WCF at a Game 6, other than Westbrook. No PG in the league was going to help Thabo, Perkins and the bench score to the point they would surpass the team's overall production... because they simply aren't good enough....

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

They still won that series.

I counter with:

Forty-nine seconds for a chance to close this out at home Thursday night. Forty-nine seconds for Paul, the nine-year pro and seven-time All-Star, to creep ever closer to his first conference final, and the first, too, for this long-beleaguered, but now proudly resilient franchise of which CP3 has willingly become the undeniable face.

“Toughest thing I’ve been through basketball-wise,” Paul said softly, his body slouched, motionless, his eyes unblinking. “Everything that happened during the end, a turnover with 17 seconds left, assuming that they would foul — dumbest play probably that I’ve ever made. And then hitting Russell’s hand and calling a foul on a 3. Just bad basketball.”

Paul took the inbounds pass after the Durant bucket up the right sideline. Westbrook pressured him. Paul later said he expected Westbrook to foul him. Instead the Thunder point guard swiped the ball away with a quick jab and it bounced out to Jackson near midcourt.

LA were in the lead before CP0 threw the game away (and ultimately their chance at winning the series) when he did that shyt. Going for a half court shot, expecting the other team to foul while you're in the lead WITH 13 SECONDS LEFT - resulting in turning the ball over is 10000000x worse than that Westbrook shot.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Take a good look at Chris Paul's face. Have you ever in your life seen a more distraught person? This is the face of a man who fukked up big time, and is painfully aware of just how badly he fukked up.


A quick recap of Chris Paul's performance in the last 49 seconds of Game 5:

• Hits a 17-foot jumper that makes the score 104-97, sticking what appeared to be a giant dagger into the chest of the Thunder.
• With 13 seconds left and his team up by two, Paul anticipates the intentional foul from Russell Westbrook in the backcourt, but for some reason—for some goddamn reason—decides to leap into the air and try to bait Westbrook into a shooting foul. Westbrook promptly strips him and dishes it to Reggie Jackson, who has the ball (maybe) knocked out of bounds by Matt Barnes.
• After the ensuing inbounds pass, Westbrook shoots a contested three over Paul, who fouls him. Westbrook sinks all three free throws.
• Now down by one with six seconds remaining, Paul probes his way into the lane, looking for space to get off a potential game-winner. He loses the handle, and Serge Ibaka grabs the loose ball. Game over.

That is just an absolutely brutal sequence of basketball for one player to endure, let alone one who has played so brilliantly throughout this series. After the game, Paul called those last 49 seconds the "Toughest thing I've ever been through, basketballwise."

It's almost always dumb to blame a loss on one single player, but it's also very rare to see one guy cram so much failure into such a short period of time. Chris Paul (almost) singlehandedly took his team from up seven with 49 seconds to play to down one with two big fat zeroes showing on the clock. It's fair to question the foul call on Westbrook's three, or the out-of-bounds call on Barnes, but none of those things happen if Paul just accepts the intentional foul on the previous possession instead of trying steal three free throws in the backcourt.

Paul now finds himself in a bit of a rare position. He is once again on the verge of not making it out of the second round of the playoffs, but in the past that recurring feat that has been forgiven due to his being saddled with sub-par teammates and coaches. But this Clippers team is the best he's ever been on, and if they can't pull out two more games against the Thunder, everyone is going to remember Paul's failings from last night, and they won't be wrong to do so.

 

[USSInsiders]

Ok, so make another thread that might as well be one long ass inbox conversation

 

[Bilz]

You can't trick me into a fight friend, why can't we just agree that whoever wins, Kobe loses?

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Oh, they ended up coming back to win the series. So that means the problem you deny and blame 100% on the coach, that we see clearly illustrated in the picture, doesnt exist. Good thing for that, its not like that issue could be related to the Thunder's problems as a whole and why they're a good team and not a championship team.

• Hits a 17-foot jumper that makes the score 104-97, sticking what appeared to be a giant dagger into the chest of the Thunder.
• With 13 seconds left and his team up by two, Paul anticipates the intentional foul from Russell Westbrook in the backcourt, but for some reason—for some goddamn reason—decides to leap into the air and try to bait Westbrook into a shooting foul. Westbrook promptly strips him and dishes it to Reggie Jackson, who has the ball (maybe) knocked out of bounds by Matt Barnes.
• After the ensuing inbounds pass, Westbrook shoots a contested three over Paul, who fouls him. Westbrook sinks all three free throws.
• Now down by one with six seconds remaining, Paul probes his way into the lane, looking for space to get off a potential game-winner. He loses the handle, and Serge Ibaka grabs the loose ball. Game over.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Ok, so make another thread that might as well be one long ass inbox conversation

I agree its horrible. As I said, the thread is celebrating the fact that we will now see far less of this. Had the Thunder won you wouldve seen dozens of threads upped all full of these same longwinded paragraphs and old quotes ultimately not saying shyt. Less threads featuring Jill Scott and his even more annoying, even less knowledgeable little brother = good for the coli

 

[USSInsiders]

I agree its horrible. As I said, the thread is celebrating the fact that we will now see far less of this. Had the Thunder won you wouldve seen dozens of threads upped all full of these same longwinded paragraphs and old quotes ultimately not saying shyt. Less threads featuring Jill Scott and his even more annoying, even less knowledgeable little brother = good for the coli

Ayo Gil, you the goat of abusing the shyt out of hindsight bias. I bet your ass got posts of mine etched in your memory banks right now. How you keep track of your shyt? You write down threads and shyt ?