No player in the last 10 years has fallen off harder than Tim Lincecum
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Marc Spector
the 4'11 Cuban
Mad Bum straight deeboed the limelight from him 
GPBear
The Tape Crusader
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People who don't actually watch the spot shouldn't talk about it.
You're right OP, I'm fukking shocked that a pitcher whose main asset was his 100+ mph fastball is unable to throw as fast when he's 32. Wait, no I'm not.
That's like if you criticized a 32 year old running back for not being as fast as he was when he was in his mid-twenties. It's not "falling off" it's just the way those sports work. People don't just play 20+ years at peak condition. Not everyone's Nolan Ryan. Or Cal Ripken. Or Kareem.
"Man, that Olympic Sprinter really fell off" No. They're just built specifically to peak at around 28. They only really get one or two good Olympics out of them before their body's start to deteriorate.
"Giants fans it must be really hard watching..." Actually, as someone from the Bay, it was fukking amazing watching a team that hasn't won shyt in my, or my father's, lifetime go on to become one of the greatest dynasty's of the early 21st century and win 3 championships in 5 years.
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Tim Lincecum went from 2.74 ERA at age 27 to 5.18 the very next year at age 28.
How is this a featured thread?
People who don't actually watch the spot shouldn't talk about it.
You're right OP, I'm fukking shocked that a pitcher whose main asset was his 100+ mph fastball is unable to throw as fast when he's 32. Wait, no I'm not.
That's like if you criticized a 32 year old running back for not being as fast as he was when he was in his mid-twenties. It's not "falling off" it's just the way those sports work. People don't just play 20+ years at peak condition. Not everyone's Nolan Ryan. Or Cal Ripken. Or Kareem.
"Man, that Olympic Sprinter really fell off" No. They're just built specifically to peak at around 28. They only really get one or two good Olympics out of them before their body's start to deteriorate.
"Giants fans it must be really hard watching..." Actually, as someone from the Bay, it was fukking amazing watching a team that hasn't won shyt in my, or my father's, lifetime go on to become one of the greatest dynasty's of the early 21st century and win 3 championships in 5 years.
This isn't Pujols falling off in his mid-30s.
This is a MF who at TWENTY EIGHT was effectively finished as an elite pitcher.
And sure some of the peripherals suggest he wasn't as bad. But he never was able to correct it even in the slightest way possible for the next FOUR years.
Tide Run This
Veteran
Lincecum is a Don
People bringing up Zito but his decline was actually happening gradually before the Giants desperately threw that 126mil at him. I remember a lot of people breaking down his numbers, and of course the biggest indicator was his velocity struggling as he got older.
Whatever happened to Darvish btw? Dude seemed phenomenal, but it's like he never recovered from surgery or something.
Whatever happened to Darvish btw? Dude seemed phenomenal, but it's like he never recovered from surgery or something.
I remember reading an article in the midst of his prime that said his motion and release was so unnatural and violent that it would drastically shorten his career. They were spot on with that call. Still had an great, albeit short, career.
How is this a featured thread?
People who don't actually watch the spot shouldn't talk about it.
You're right OP, I'm fukking shocked that a pitcher whose main asset was his 100+ mph fastball is unable to throw as fast when he's 32. Wait, no I'm not.
That's like if you criticized a 32 year old running back for not being as fast as he was when he was in his mid-twenties. It's not "falling off" it's just the way those sports work. People don't just play 20+ years at peak condition. Not everyone's Nolan Ryan. Or Cal Ripken. Or Kareem.
"Man, that Olympic Sprinter really fell off" No. They're just built specifically to peak at around 28. They only really get one or two good Olympics out of them before their body's start to deteriorate.
"Giants fans it must be really hard watching..." Actually, as someone from the Bay, it was fukking amazing watching a team that hasn't won shyt in my, or my father's, lifetime go on to become one of the greatest dynasty's of the early 21st century and win 3 championships in 5 years.
What are you even talking about?Tim Lincecum went from 4x all star and elite perennial Cy young candidate, to STRAIGHT ASS overnight at age 27.... and never recovered since... thats not normal. The fall-off was unusually drastic. You acting like he gradually faded away and is having his first bad year now at age 32. Quit stanning.
VegetasHairline
Veteran
If I remember correctly, Carl Crawford also had TJ surgery.I can post a very, very, very long list of players who had shoulder and TJ surgeries who were not abused.
Hell, Miguel Sano had TJ surgery.
What was his pitch count?
VegetasHairline
Veteran
I think you're talking about Brian Wilson, the Giants closer. I don't even remember what happened to him. I think he just gradually declined.
He's done. Was the giants closer 3 years ago I think. Blew out his arm really early that season, like within the first 5 games. Had a third tommy john surgery (two in college I think). It was his contract year, he already had a lot of mileage so the giants were iffy to re-sign him if he was healthy anyways, the tommy john surgery just cemented it. Went to the dodgers the next season and was mediocre as a reliever.
THE MACHINE
night owl
Tiger is the worst ever. 2013 player of the year with 5 wins.
Since then...
3 back surgeries
2 knee operations
1 DUI
Multiple missed cuts
Since then...
3 back surgeries
2 knee operations
1 DUI
Multiple missed cuts
Kurt Warner is like
Terrell Davis like
Those are great comparisons, but in both cases you could at least say their short-term greatness was partially based on the systems.
Lincecum simply was the best pitcher in baseball, bar none.
And Warner and Davis both are in the Hall of Fame. People who know baseball better than me claim Lincecum might not get in.
Jack Morris's peak couldn't touch Lincecum. He was a slightly above-average pitcher who was very durable for a great team. His wins were way inflated compared to his actual skill.
And he'll prolly still get in.
And they still getting $250,000,000/10-year contracts
yseJ
Empire strikes back
he wasnt that great to begin with. he had like two great years with the Giants and was clutch in the only offs he been to. caught a surgery in 2012 and then his arm was done. caught feelings too.