No Thread About D.L. Hughley Making Lupe His Son on BET?

[Klyk21]

Damn, how long t.j holmes been with bet?! Thought he was still on cnn. I don't have bet anymore, didn't come with basic. What time that show come on?! About 10pm or 11pm est?

 

[Pazzy]

The rich ruling class run this country and the Presidents are just managers of their wealth.

The middle class has been severly weakened and the USA is one of the least unionized industiral countries on Earth. The "big bad government" myth is peddled to the poor envious white working class males that think the big bad government has given too much to women, Blacks, and immigrants. The Tea Party is bank rolled by the Koch brothers and we know where they stand in the Rich Ruling class. In fact. you can inter connect all these organizations with the international ones like the World Economic Forum, IMF, World Bank, and World Trade Organization. It boggles most of the working class how the members of the Tea Party adopt the agenda of the Rich Ruling class and conservative poor to middle income whites vote against their own interests. That’s the magic of the Rich upper class… they will use the peasant to vote against his own interest by appealing to wedge politics, like abortion, race, immigration and once they have these poor whites on their side, they cleverly include taxes, deregulations, welfare reform into that agenda. They cut taxes and go to war and then want to cut social programs yelling "debt! debt!"... The Democrats ain't better either. They talk a populist line but look at our President's policies and a lot of Dems voted for the war in Iraq

Even if blacks were unified and voted together as a significant bloc, the two party system isn't in their interests because the two parties are just different fronts for the larger interests.

Let's just go back to the debates. Our black president, claimed he introduced the toughest Wall Street/Banking regulations since the great depression, on paper yes but he never added it was intentionally riddled with holes and loopholes some 10,000 confusing pages after pages that were meant to be never practical. He claimed that by closing loopholes in the tax system some magical revenue will appear he had four years to do that if he wanted to. Finally Obama never mentioned that his job advisor was an X-CEO of General Electric one of the largest companies that exported jobs to China.

None of them had specifics, they claimed a pie in the sky if they were giving the chance to rule the US for the next 4 years, Romney constantly argued since he was a business man he knew naturally how to run a business, but government is not business and the aim and the entire idea of a government is not about profit maximization. Romney claimed by cracking up on China (the people that pay his welfare) he will create jobs, if China was forced to inflate its currency, how?? It boggles the mind since China's currency will always be lower than the US dollar. He claimed he can create jobs by making America attractive for business (typical talk, of neo-liberals) how? by further deregulations and tax cuts and pandering to big business and naturally through water down environmental and labor laws and whooping the working class and making them so desperate that they will be willing to work for a loaf of bread. But he never mentioned the fact his buddies and his class exported US jobs to China in the first place and that himself at once a CEO for a company that mainly outsourced jobs to third world countries.


Election season is a good show for the peasant and wage slaves, next month we will vote for the same old system and 10 years from now nothing will change. The wage-class will be fukked and another 2 actors will debate again and the peasant will forget as usual and we will be fooled throughout our lives and one day we will wake up old, tired, poor looking back at our lives how many times we were fooled.

this man right here gets it. that's why i was going like when i was listening to both of them talking about helping out the middle class and bringing back jobs to america.

but that STILL no an excuse NOT to vote though or to get involved in politics.

 

[daze23]

obviously. We talmbout voting for politicians, not on specific pieces of legislation.

and I'm talking about voting for local politicians, as well as states with ballot initiatives. it's all in the same booth. so far I've heard no nuance in Lupe or anyone else's argument. it's just been "don't vote", period

 

[Beegio]

obviously. We talmbout voting for politicians, not on specific pieces of legislation.

Obviously, we're talking about the whole political process, and black people as a whole's lack of participation.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

and I'm talking about voting for local politicians, as well as states with ballot initiatives. it's all in the same booth. so far I've heard no nuance in Lupe or anyone else's argument. it's just been "don't vote", period

Where did he tell niccaz not to vote? He said HE doesnt vote and said why. And in that manner he is right. Tweet the nicca, ask if he votes for pieces of legislation... that makes a difference.

As for just voting for the fukc of it, its stupid as fukc. If I go into the booth and I dont know shyt about the two fukcaz on the ballot then I dont vote for either. If I think they both suck I dont vote for either. If theres only one person on the ballot and I dont know shyt about em or I know he/she is an ass then I dont vote.

Its the only responsible way to vote. Blind votes are stupid as fukc. Voting just for the fukc of it is stupid as fukc. Period.

If the ballot was David Duke Vs Robert E Lee, who do you vote for?

 

[Beegio]

Where did he tell niccaz not to vote? He said HE doesnt vote and said why. And in that manner he is right. Tweet the nicca, ask if he votes for pieces of legislation... that makes a difference.

As for just voting for the fukc of it, its stupid as fukc. If I go into the booth and I dont know shyt about the two fukcaz on the ballot then I dont vote for either. If I think they both suck I dont vote for either. If theres only one person on the ballot and I dont know shyt about em or I know he/she is an ass then I dont vote.

Its the only responsible way to vote. Blind votes are stupid as fukc. Voting just for the fukc of it is stupid as fukc. Period.

If the ballot was David Duke Vs Robert E Lee, who do you vote for?

Now you're getting it. Nobody is saying vote just to vote. That's just as dumb as not voting cause you don't think your vote doesn't count.

1) Educate yourself on the issues

2) Evaluate the candidates to see where they align with the issues

3) Choose the candidate that best align with your stance on the issues

4) If can't stomach any candidate running, politely bow out

That's the BASIC level of participation, which as a whole, black people don't do nearly as well as other races.

Lupe is advocating not voting at all, because he's publicizing it. He can keep that shyt to himself like most people do. If a public figure takes a political stance publicly, they are advocating.

 

[daze23]

Where did he tell niccaz not to vote? He said HE doesnt vote and said why. And in that manner he is right. Tweet the nicca, ask if he votes for pieces of legislation... that makes a difference.

only "legislators" vote on "legislation". some states have ballot initiatives (aka "direct democracy"). I can only assume Lupe doesn't participate, since it's all in the same booth, and I've never heard him try to insert that nuance into his argument

As for just voting for the fukc of it, its stupid as fukc. If I go into the booth and I dont know shyt about the two fukcaz on the ballot then I dont vote for either. If I think they both suck I dont vote for either. If theres only one person on the ballot and I dont know shyt about em or I know he/she is an ass then I dont vote.

Its the only responsible way to vote. Blind votes are stupid as fukc. Voting just for the fukc of it is stupid as fukc. Period.

again, I am pushing for an informed democracy. the information is available. if you remain ignorant, that is only your choice

If the ballot was David Duke Vs Robert E Lee, who do you vote for?

neither, I'd vote for a 3rd party or write someone in. but I'm not sure why I should be expected to take such a silly example seriously

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Now you're getting it. Nobody is saying vote just to vote. That's just as dumb as not voting cause you don't think your vote doesn't count.

1) Educate yourself on the issues

2) Evaluate the candidates to see where they align with the issues

3) Choose the candidate that best align with your stance on the issues

4) If can't stomach any candidate running, politely bow out

That's the BASIC level of participation, which as a whole, black people don't do nearly as well as other races.

Lupe is advocating not voting at all, because he's publicizing it. He can keep that shyt to himself like most people do. If a public figure takes a political stance publicly, they are advocating.

Nicca, my degree is in Politics and Government... And I'm telling you this system is BS period. If I dont know shyt about a candidate its because reliable readily available and pertinant info isnt available. Fact is these people running agree on most issues AND whether or not they agree shyt aint gettin done and shyt aint and HASNT changed. Why do you think government is set up the way it is? Its so shyt DOESNT change.

Local shyt makes a little more sense. But still learning about the fakkets running doesnt make them better options. And ultimately the shyt I care about is never happenin. period.

So I dont give a holy hell if people vote or not. Smarten up nas.

 

[Loose]

George Carlin was one of the smartest men I've ever heard, challenged you thru his comedy and displayed the power of words,My brother Dave Chappelle is a genius thru his show you saw the proof, wittily exposed the lies and had us laughing at the truth,Foxworthy, Katt, Chris Rock, Richard Pryor, dikk Gregory was the king, but from your shows it must be told I never learned a fukking thing,Eddie Griffin through his riffin appeals to a higher sense of purpose, takes our darkest deepest ignorances and pulls them to the surface,Turns them into food for thought, it's funny but you thinking, a comics power is they use the fun to overcome 4give me if I'm reaching,They always spoke the truth to power in a disguised and friendly bit, only a comic can diss a president & even have him laughing at the shytWhat happened to that? Strong social critiques thru thoughtful comedic jabs?, but you'd rather do yo mama jokes cuz some heckler got u mad,I hate to break the news, but I love that it will be spoke, you didn't take your comedy seriously, so now YOU are the fukking joke! #TheEnd

 

[daze23]

@ Lupe doubling down on the twitter beef

hopefully this will get interesting

 

[intilectual recipricol]

only "legislators" vote on "legislation". some states have ballot initiatives (aka "direct democracy"). I can only assume Lupe doesn't participate, since it's all in the same booth, and I've never heard him try to insert that nuance into his argument

Inform yourself. Take to twitter and ask him. The information is available.

again, I am pushing for an informed democracy. the information is available. if you remain ignorant, that is only your choice

You couldnt be more off... and stupid. Knowin that two candidates aint talkin bout shyt doesnt make either one a good candidate. Yes some have some stances that are worse than others, but at what point does it cease to matter? I say at the point this shyt will never have an actual affect.

neither, I'd vote for a 3rd party or write someone in. but I'm not sure why I should be expected to take such a silly example seriously

That is the same as a non-vote. You sir, have exposed yourself. When you saw that both candidates were worthless you essentially did not vote with your write in or 3rd party "vote"

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

You guys are really confused, let me break it down for you and educate ya'll

I vote in my own way
I vote by not voting which is my way of acknowledgement of the illusion of choice.

Saying all politicians are bad is a cop out, this is not about all politicians are bad, that's oversimplyfing it.
This is about a very real conspiracy that the two major opponents are both for the exact same thing.

It's like Jesse Ventura says... "Politics is like wrestling, they argue in front of the camera to give you the illusion of choice, but they are all friends in the locker room"

If I vote, I am basically saying that there actually is a choice, which is a lie!

And what do people say when they say you should vote?
They say but you have to vote for the lesser evil.
Voting for what YOU PERCEIVE as the lesser evil is still voting for evil.
That's what you guys have to understand!

And secondly what about accountability?
If you vote for Obama and then Obama goes and bombs innocent civilians in some middle eastern country, and because of his past actions during his presidency you are not at all surprised, do you feel that you have some ownership of accountability?

What about the other side of the coin of voting?

 

[daze23]

Inform yourself. Take to twitter and ask him. The information is available.

I'm not on twitter. nor would I sign up in some attempt to talk to Loopy

You couldnt be more off... and stupid. Knowin that two candidates aint talkin bout shyt doesnt make either one a good candidate. Yes some have some stances that are worse than others, but at what point does it cease to matter? I say at the point this shyt will never have an actual affect.

first of all there more than 2 candidates for almost every ticket. I don't understand how you can argue that it will have no "actual effect". if you concede government does anything then obviously it will have an effect

it seems you'd rather take this defeatist victim position. it's just a self-fulfilling prophesy where people don't participate in the shytstem, because they feel nothing changes, and then nothing changes because people don't participate in the system. fukk that

That is the same as a non-vote. You sir, have exposed yourself. When you saw that both candidates were worthless you essentially did not vote with your write in or 3rd party "vote"

it's not the same as a non-vote because I actually voted. I made it known that I am a voter and I'm not supporting one of the major parties. it's the only way I think 3rd parties can ever hope to gain traction. how do you think people like Bernie Sanders and fukkin Jesse The fukkin Body Ventura got elected? it certainlty wasn't becuse people didn't believe they could win, and sat home instead of voting. if nothing else the major parties will see that there are voters their message is not connecting with. not to mention I'm still participate in voting on other things. rather than disregarding the whole process because I don't like one of the many choices on the ballot

 

[Beegio]

Nicca, my degree is in Politics and Government... And I'm telling you this system is BS period. If I dont know shyt about a candidate its because reliable readily available and pertinant info isnt available. Fact is these people running agree on most issues AND whether or not they agree shyt aint gettin done and shyt aint and HASNT changed. Why do you think government is set up the way it is? Its so shyt DOESNT change.

Local shyt makes a little more sense. But still learning about the fakkets running doesnt make them better options. And ultimately the shyt I care about is never happenin. period.

So I dont give a holy hell if people vote or not. Smarten up nas.

So you chose a field of study in some shyt you don't even believe in?

"Smart dumb nikka problems"

Smart dumb nikka inner dialogue:
"Hmm, what college major should I choose?"...
"hmmm"...
"hmm"...
"

"
"Even though I don't believe in science, creationism all the way babeee, I should major in biology"

Nicca, we went from being slaves, to being free (kinda), to being able to own shyt, to being able to vote, to really being free, to having a President who's half black. You think that happened because white people wanted it? No, it's because throughout US history, we had black leaders, for lack of a better word, that worked within a political system that was against us, to change shyt.

We got a long way to go, still, to level the playing field, but it can and will be done.

 

[daze23]

It's like Jesse Ventura says...

yeah, the guy that became mayor and governor because people voted