No thread about El Salvador’s Bukele becoming a dictator?

[Diunx]

How does a Palestinian become president of El Salvador

He is Salvadorian.

 

[the bossman]

Thats the complicated thing, when turning countries from 0 it is debatable if that every 4 yrs debating what next stuff works vs laying out a 50-100 year plan. The issue though usually when you have these "benevolent dictators" rarely is society groomed for life post dictatorship once it is ready for democracy OR if the baton is to be handed off nobody is groomed, it is usually the dictator dies unexpectedly and people scramble for power.

It's impossible to have this convo as people will continue to force western biases.

For context I`m not promoting him I`m just saying Dictatorship is a complicated concept. Most Leaders of countries aren't that great thus it gets amplified in a dictatorship, but if you asked someone if their country is doing great and on a good trajectory would they care if the same president keeps things on that trajectory for 30 years, would they care? I'd argue most people will say no keep it up

It definitely is. It's not as black and white as we might think at first glance. We're basically taught growing up in the American school system to automatically demonize anyone that's labeled as a dictator. Democracy always good. Dictatorship always bad. After visiting Rwanda few years ago, it made me re-think all of that

It's incredible to see how far that country has come given the horrible atrocities that were happening there just 30 years ago. If you look at Kagame's history it's filled with stories of horrible things he's done. Plenty of blood on his hands. but at the end of the day he turned a war-torn ravaged country into a safe stable society. Extremely safe. nobody batting an eye at a 4 or 5 year old kid walking home from school alone. very business-friendly. one of the best on the continent. I know several black folks who have left America and moved there. He has a plan and vision on lifting up the people of the country.

It's clear that heavy handed dictatorship approach was very beneficial to get the country back on track. Democracy wouldn't have worked for a country like that coming out of war in such a fragile state at that time. But on the flip side, as nice as it is today, it's still a one party state with zero plans to transition to a new leader anytime soon. I'm just rambling at this point. but all that to say I don't see him as 'bad' or 'good'. It just is what it is

 

[Apollo Creed]

It definitely is. It's not as black and white as we might think at first glance. We're basically taught growing up in the American school system to automatically demonize anyone that's labeled as a dictator. Democracy always good. Dictatorship always bad. After visiting Rwanda few years ago, it made me re-think all of that

It's incredible to see how far that country has come given the horrible atrocities that were happening there just 30 years ago. If you look at Kagame's history it's filled with stories of horrible things he's done. Plenty of blood on his hands. but at the end of the day he turned a war-torn ravaged country into a safe stable society. Extremely safe. nobody batting an eye at a 4 or 5 year old kid walking home from school alone. very business-friendly. one of the best on the continent. I know several black folks who have left America and moved there. He has a plan and vision on lifting up the people of the country.

It's clear that heavy handed dictatorship approach was very beneficial to get the country back on track. Democracy wouldn't have worked for a country like that coming out of war in such a fragile state at that time. But on the flip side, as nice as it is today, it's still a one party state with zero plans to transition to a new leader anytime soon. I'm just rambling at this point. but all that to say I don't see him as 'bad' or 'good'. It just is what it is

Exactly. What Good is Democracy if nothing gets done yet regardless the Same people get richer and richer? Is that truly a democracy?

Rwanda will likely face the power grab post Kagame.

When building a society ideally you have consistent leadership in power to lay the foundation, establish the culture, and then create an educated population that, thus once democracy is introduced people are voting on things to be done vs fundamental cultural battles.

 

[RamsayBolton]

Yall saying the guy who agreed to put whoever Trump wants in prison and playing along with not being able to release them is gonna be a good dictator?

 

[Vandelay]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

[Recca Gatsby]

Yall saying the guy who agreed to put whoever Trump wants in prison and playing along with not being able to release them is gonna be a good dictator?

This right here.

That bullshyt he pulled when he visited the white house earlier this year showed what kinda dude he is

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Guaranteed.

A left wing Dem gets nominated/elected

Trump says im not leaving the Presidency to save the U.S from the evils of communism

 

[Goat poster]

No such thing as a good Dictator
You nikkas need to stop smoking dope

RIGHT



I'm sitting here reading some of these post like

 

[Goat poster]

Thats the complicated thing, when turning countries from 0 it is debatable if that every 4 yrs debating what next stuff works vs laying out a 50-100 year plan. The issue though usually when you have these "benevolent dictators" rarely is society groomed for life post dictatorship once it is ready for democracy OR if the baton is to be handed off nobody is groomed, it is usually the dictator dies unexpectedly and people scramble for power.

Most dictators never step down PERIOD because absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Only thing that removes dictators are wars and Revolutions.

Hope you folks supporting this nonsense realize that.

We are heading towards a DARK path

 

[Carl Tethers]

Get ruled by some fakkit called Bukakke

 

[BandOfGypsys]

Once you start something you gotta see it through to the end. no reason for him to leave if he what he did the for the country. This ain't the USA


He seems like he's taking a turn for the worst tho

 

[MikelArteta]

Next M7

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

The whole dictatorship thing is funny how it’s viewed depending on the person/Country

Russia and Singapore have leaders that move in essentially the same way politically but Singapore wouldn’t be classified the same way because their leader isn’t a complete a$$hole like Putin .


Just like how South Korea gets ignored for having a dictatorship in its recent history…(because it worked )


Democracy is not necessary in EVERY situation . It should be the ultimate goal at some point though

 

[dontreadthis]

They sent the CIA to assassinate African and South American leaders for less.

see Patrice Lumumba

 

[Uchiha God]