No Thread On Kaep Being Tossed In The Bushes?

[Thingsfallapart]

He put up marginally better numbers than Kap (with a slightly better OL and slightly better weapons).

Cam: 1794 yards, 8 tds, 5 ints, 81.4 rating, 257 rushing yards, 2 rushing tds
Kap: 1615 yards, 6 tds, 5 ints, 78.8 rating, 256 rushing yards, 1 rushing td

Cam ain't done nothing Kap ain't done. They both performed about the same. People are saying Kap is withering and dying, and people said Cam was withering and dying when he was playing like this last year. Now Cam is actually putting up about the same stats as last year (1523 yards, 11 tds, 8 ints, 78.1 rating, 286 yards, 4 rushing tds), but is considered to be an MVP candidate. Why? Because the team is doing well, has a great D, and a great run game; all factors out of the QBs control. So why is Kap about to be benched and being called washed? Cam struggled the same when his team fell apart too. Give Kap the good D and run game the Panthers have now and he goes to a Superbowl and 2 NFC Championships. But the Panthers organization isn't as terrible as the 49ers organization is, so they allowed Cam to work it out while Kap is being railroaded. QBs will live if they're given the tools to live.

again.. what are you refuting? I said he put up better numbers.. and you just proved that he put up better numbers. I said Cam played better, and you just proved that he did indeed play better.

The point of contention was ole' boy suggested Cam would do worse than Kap and wouldn't survive Kap's situation, and I (and you also unknowingly or not) proved that not only did he survive but he played better than Kap in the same situation. I didn't say he lit the world on fire i said he played better than Kap, AND HE DID. So what are you arguing?

Give half the QBs in the league good receivers, a great D, a good oline, a great run game, and a good coach and they make the superbowl and a championship game. Did I say otherwise? Again.. what point are you making?

 

[King Kreole]

again.. what are you refuting? I said he put up better numbers.. and you just proved that he put up better numbers. I said Cam played better, and you just proved that he did indeed play better.

The point of contention was ole' boy suggested Cam would do worse than Kap and wouldn't survive Kap's situation, and I (and you also unknowingly or not) proved that not only did he survive but he played better than Kap in the same situation. I didn't say he lit the world on fire i said he played better than Kap, AND HE DID. So what are you arguing?

Give half the QBs in the league good receivers, a great D, a good oline, a great run game, and a good coach and they make the superbowl and a championship game. Did I say otherwise? Again.. what point are you making?

The point i'm making is that Cam didn't survive because of his play, he survived because he had a functional organization committed to success. I don't think he'd do worse than Colin, but If Cam was a 49er, he'd be being benched this week as well. If Colin was on the Panthers, he'd be allowed to play through it and he'd be doing what Cam is doing this year with a great D and a run O. That's my whole point. Situation and context matters.

 

[Thingsfallapart]

The point i'm making is that Cam didn't survive because of his play, he survived because he had a functional organization committed to success. I don't think he'd do worse than Colin, but If Cam was a 49er, he'd be being benched this week as well. If Colin was on the Panthers, he'd be allowed to play through it and he'd be doing what Cam is doing this year with a great D and a run O. That's my whole point. Situation and context matters.

Maybe.. maybe not. Only thing we DO know for sure is that Cam did indeed play better than Kap when forced into the same bad situation. That's the point I was making. Whether Cam would have been benched or not is something unknown.

 

[ROBEEZYKILLA]

im in dallas so cowboys fan all day but damn back in his superbowl run(which he almost won) he seemed like a beast i was a fan wonders what happened to cause this massive downfall shyt is sad

 

[jwonder]

Was he good when he the 9ers were running thru the playoffsm, winning NFC championships and going to a SB?

I'm starting to think people are really slow with this concept of Kaep going to the superbowl. He ran the friggin read option. New to the NFL. Took teams off guard. Nobody is running the read option heavy anymore. You remember the wildcat? Same shyt. Caught muthafukkas off guard off season and then shyt gets smacked now.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I'm starting to think people are really slow with this concept of Kaep going to the superbowl. He ran the friggin read option. New to the NFL. Took teams off guard. Nobody is running the read option heavy anymore. You remember the wildcat? Same shyt. Caught muthafukkas off guard off season and then shyt gets smacked now.

Kap's first season: 3309 passing yards, 19 tds, 8 ints, 93.3 rating, 598 rushing yards, 8 tds.
Kap's second season: 3569 passing yards, 24 tds, 8 ints, 95 rating, 504 rushing yards, 1 td.
Kap's third season: 3028 passing yards, 13 tds, 10 ints, 77.7 rating, 621 rushing yards, 2 rushing tds.

He's played his third season with Marcus Martin, Jordan Devey, Eric Pears, Joe Looney, and Jonathan Martin all getting significant starting time on the OL. None of those players should have ever been starters. So he was actually improving each year before the team imploded at the start of his third season.

silence

 

[jwonder]

He is still garbage and will be off the team next year.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Some of these athletes get too caught up in fame and the bullshyt instead of focusing on the goddamn game.

Dude was out here trying to be Hollywood and not Hall of Fame

 

[Taco]

Yep that is why I call this shyt out everyday during the NFL season. The league constantly shyts on black QBs.

Now watch they make him go out there for coin tosses and embarrass him.

Don't worry Andy Reid will take him in Kansas City.

The difference is Alex Smith wasn't making Kaeps money. You really think Kaep deserves the same money he's getting off his contract? When will you guys figure out its not the fact that these qb's are black it's because these quarterbacks think with their legs first? It's been statistically proven that qb's who use their legs more than the usual pocket passer don't last in the league. I think coaches would rather have a shytty pocket passer than a option or run first qb.

I'm starting to think people are really slow with this concept of Kaep going to the superbowl. He ran the friggin read option. New to the NFL. Took teams off guard. Nobody is running the read option heavy anymore. You remember the wildcat? Same shyt. Caught muthafukkas off guard off season and then shyt gets smacked now.

Dude had the number one defense as well. And we're all seeing what a great defense can do for a team this season.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Some of these athletes get too caught up in fame and the bullshyt instead of focusing on the goddamn game.

Dude was out here trying to be Hollywood and not Hall of Fame

Please shut the fukk up and stop speaking on shyt that you have no clue what the fukk youre talkin about

 

[Relldaproblem]

Cam wouldn't whither and die in Kaps situation because he's already BEEN in Kaps situation and clearly made it out alive.

Yall talk about bad o-line play but does anyone last year's MNF game when the Panthers played the Eagles.
That was probably some of the worse o-line play I've EVER seen. Cam was sacked nine times in that game. Carolina started 4 undrafted Free agents on their line last year, shyt they were starting a DT on their line at one point.

For the fist half of last season Cam's D was giving up 30 a game, and they lost Greg Hardy.

On top of that Cam didn't have a 1000 yard rusher like kap did, He had Olsen and a rookie Kelvin Benjamin and that's it as far as weapons.

As far as coaching, Mike Shula is his OC.. enough said.

On top of that he was playing on a surgically repaired ankle, broken ribs, and late in the season played with two fractures in his back.

And he was still putting up better numbers than Kap. nikka has 7 TDs TOTAL in 8 games.. Cam has always been more productive than that.

Yall be having tunnel vision when it comes to your squads like your team is the first or the only team to have the issues you have.

You got damn right bruh. Ya got damn right.

Rell Shyt

 

[jwonder]

The difference is Alex Smith wasn't making Kaeps money. You really think Kaep deserves the same money he's getting off his contract? When will you guys figure out its not the fact that these qb's are black it's because these quarterbacks think with their legs first? It's been statistically proven that qb's who use their legs more than the usual pocket passer don't last in the league. I think coaches would rather have a shytty pocket passer than a option or run first qb any day becaus

Dude had the number one defense as well. And we're all seeing what a great defense can do for a team this season.

Yeah. 49ers were loaded for years, so it masked his flaws. He isn't worth the money.

 

[jwonder]

Cam wouldn't whither and die in Kaps situation because he's already BEEN in Kaps situation and clearly made it out alive.

Yall talk about bad o-line play but does anyone last year's MNF game when the Panthers played the Eagles.
That was probably some of the worse o-line play I've EVER seen. Cam was sacked nine times in that game. Carolina started 4 undrafted Free agents on their line last year, shyt they were starting a DT on their line at one point.

For the fist half of last season Cam's D was giving up 30 a game, and they lost Greg Hardy.

On top of that Cam didn't have a 1000 yard rusher like kap did, He had Olsen and a rookie Kelvin Benjamin and that's it as far as weapons.

As far as coaching, Mike Shula is his OC.. enough said.

On top of that he was playing on a surgically repaired ankle, broken ribs, and late in the season played with two fractures in his back.

And he was still putting up better numbers than Kap. nikka has 7 TDs TOTAL in 8 games.. Cam has always been more productive than that.

Yall be having tunnel vision when it comes to your squads like your team is the first or the only team to have the issues you have.

I'm a Niner fan. But a realist. Cam is better. Why people want argue this is beyond me. Even to this day Kaep has a better receiving corps than Cam. Cam went through a lot of shyt and pulled through. It's the NFL, it's never going to be perfect.

 

[jwonder]

This time last year, Cam had 8 tds, 5 int and people were calling for Derek Anderson to step in. He made it out alive because the team didn't give up on him like we're doing with Kap. They allowed him to work through his rough patch. And Olsen and Kelvin Benjamin are more weapons than Kap has right now. Again, no shade on Cam, I really like him.

He had KB for one year as a rookie. Don't act like Cam has had big time weapons his whole career. He is doing good with what he has.

One thing I can't stand is stat junkies. Stats are very deceiving. For example. Cam will through two picks in a game, but through the game winning TD. Kaep will throw Interceptions, and will throw more interceptions or Just start pouting like a little bytch and lose his confidence.

You see Cam and shyt Jameis Winston. True Rookie, fukking up majorly, but not giving up. Getting better each week with a shytTY O LINE.

Too many excuses for Kaepernick.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

He had KB for one year as a rookie. Don't act like Cam has had big time weapons his whole career. He is doing good with what he has.

One thing I can't stand is stat junkies. Stats are very deceiving. For example. Cam will through two picks in a game, but through the game winning TD. Kaep will throw Interceptions, and will throw more interceptions or Just start pouting like a little bytch and lose his confidence.

You see Cam and shyt Jameis Winston. True Rookie, fukking up majorly, but not giving up. Getting better each week with a shytTY O LINE.

Too many excuses for Kaepernick.

We get it man. You don't like Kaep. I came thru with solid stats to crush your argument and you had virtually nothing to say in response