nobody wants to admit it but the more u go back and listen to parliament funkadelic.....

[I love Latina women]

true... he pretty much raised and lowered levels... because whenever I play "one of those funky things" I don't hear how he hell he raise the bass/keys that damn loud.. and then swizz raised it louder . I guess by raising erick's

yeah

 

[Grand_Verbalizer]

Enlighten us, what songs from the chronic are simply rehashes/straight loops

1. The Chronic (Intro)
2. fukk Wit Dre Day (And Everybody's Celebratin')
3. Let Me Ride
4. The Day The nikkaz Took Over
5. Nothin' But A 'G' Thang
6. Deeez Nuuuts
7. Lil' Ghetto Boy
8. A nikka Witta Gun
9. Rat-Tat-Tat-Tat
10. The $20 Sack Pyramid
11. Lyrical Gangbang
12. High Powered
13. The Doctor's Office (Skit)
14. Stranded On Death Row
15. The Roach (The Chronic Outro)
16. bytches Ain't shyt!


The way Dre would take small random pieces from 5 tracks and put it all together with instrumentation etc. was creative, impressive and insane, I'd say his techniques were closer to the Bomb Squad than Erick sermon
E and Dre don't really sound alike even when using the same samples also don't forget that Dre was flipping funk shyt like Ohio players since 86
@stomachlines you should check whosampled to get an idea of what went into every track

Oh yeah "bytches ain't shyt" is the very definition of flipping the fukk outta sample

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Remember when I heard Puff and Mic Geronimo and also been around the world.. I thought they where cool until I was digging in my old record collection back then and realized I had the originals and they were the same song..

then they cried foul when those lawyers took all those royalties

 

[Supa]

yup, puffy and the hitmen was straight up just jackin' shyt and damn near not changin' a thing to it lmao

Who says you have to change anything? Rap was built off of rhyming over loops. If you can capture the essence of the original record through a loop then leave it as is. Those Bad Boy records were great because of that. Every sample doesn't need to be chopped. If it doesn't need drums, don't add them. A lot of producers over produce.

Dre was biting Erick Sermons sound

When people talk about funk in hip hop they always forget about EPMD. I remember NWA being in one of their videos so Dre was definitely a fan.

I know a lot of Hip-hop heads and producers don't like to hear it but :

Creating music from scratch >> sampling.

I'm not saying sampling is simple or easy but as an art form, regarding the creative process, creating music from scratch is superior. Those musicians from the 70's and the 80's were amazing.

Hip Hop music is at its best over samples. RZA, Primo, Pete, etc are great musicians in their own right.

 

[I love Latina women]

Who says you have to change anything? Rap was built off of rhyming over loops. If you can capture the essence of the original record through a loop then leave it as is. Those Bad Boy records were great because of that. Every sample doesn't need to be chopped. If it doesn't need drums, don't add them. A lot of producers over produce.

as i've stated before, hip hop was built off of bitin' however there somethin' to be said and applauded for when a hip hop producer can "bite" aka sample from those classic records of way back when, when they find a way of flippin' a certain part of the record and turnin' it into somethin' else to an extent

what puffy and the hitmen did, did work for them but that's not to say that sometimes it wasn't lazy

but you right, sometimes producers over produce

all i'm sayin' is, it's funny to go back and listen to how much they didn't do when you listen to the original record

 

[I love Latina women]

Enlighten us, what songs from the chronic are simply rehashes/straight loops

1. The Chronic (Intro)
2. fukk Wit Dre Day (And Everybody's Celebratin')
3. Let Me Ride
4. The Day The nikkaz Took Over
5. Nothin' But A 'G' Thang
6. Deeez Nuuuts
7. Lil' Ghetto Boy
8. A nikka Witta Gun
9. Rat-Tat-Tat-Tat
10. The $20 Sack Pyramid
11. Lyrical Gangbang
12. High Powered
13. The Doctor's Office (Skit)
14. Stranded On Death Row
15. The Roach (The Chronic Outro)
16. bytches Ain't shyt!


The way Dre would take small random pieces from 5 tracks and put it all together with instrumentation etc. was creative, impressive and insane, I'd say his techniques were closer to the Bomb Squad than Erick sermon
E and Dre don't really sound alike even when using the same samples also don't forget that Dre was flipping funk shyt like Ohio players since 86
@stomachlines you should check whosampled to get an idea of what went into every track

Oh yeah "bytches ain't shyt" is the very definition of flipping the fukk outta sample

i know for the most part what into each track, i've been up on game of what was sampled and all of that

all i'm sayin is when you go back and listen to what was sampled AND OR REPLAYED by musicians from the original records, it's not nearly as impressive as you think, and i was talkin' specifically with the g funk shyt

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

Bruh

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Who says you have to change anything? Rap was built off of rhyming over loops. If you can capture the essence of the original record through a loop then leave it as is. Those Bad Boy records were great because of that. Every sample doesn't need to be chopped. If it doesn't need drums, don't add them. A lot of producers over produce.
.

I agree but the reason puff gets slammed is because what he was sampling wasn't break beats, james brown and etc... it was Hollywood shuffle and david bowie and juicy fruit

 

[Apollo Creed]

 

[Grand_Verbalizer]

all i'm sayin is when you go back and listen to what was sampled AND OR REPLAYED by musicians from the original records, it's not nearly as impressive as you think, and i was talkin' specifically with the g funk shyt

I disagree, it's all about VISION, when I "go back and listen" it's even more impressive especially considering the work they put in on nearly every track

 

[I love Latina women]

I disagree, it's all about VISION, when I "go back and listen" it's even more impressive especially considering the work they put in on nearly every track

 

[Walt]

Silly child. Do you know what an interpolation is?? Dr. Dre & co. RECREATED the "sound", they didn't sample. Dre is a professionally trained musician dumbass... I see the neg train coming.

This fukkin forum has been so bad for so long now that the only thing to do is mine an occasional absurd laugh from it.

 

[Supa]

as i've stated before, hip hop was built off of bitin' however there somethin' to be said and applauded for when a hip hop producer can "bite" aka sample from those classic records of way back when, when they find a way of flippin' a certain part of the record and turnin' it into somethin' else to an extent

what puffy and the hitmen did, did work for them but that's not to say that sometimes it wasn't lazy

but you right, sometimes producers over produce

all i'm sayin' is, it's funny to go back and listen to how much they didn't do when you listen to the original record

Stop calling it biting. I don't understand how anyone can be a fan of hip hop and then shyt on sampling if you know the origin for it. There wasn't a band playing original music. You rapped over the breaks/loops that the DJ played.

I'm always trying to hear the original song that was sampled but I've never lost respect for the beat if it wasn't flipped. I get an appreciation for the original because it's usually a song I've never heard. Sampling revives old music.

It's not lazy to use popular records either. They were obviously going for that nostalgia feel with a record the masses knew. They made Benjamins too so it's not like they only sampled pop hits.

 

[I love Latina women]

This fukkin forum has been so bad for so long now that the only thing to do is mine an occasional absurd laugh from it.

but am i wrong for thinkin' a lot of those g funk records were lazy samples and not that impressive once you go back and listen to those parliament funkadelic albums; ohio players too and all those other funk records of the 70s

i know all about samples and interpolations and all that, i'm just sayin', some of em' not all that impressive when you really get down to the core of them songs

i'm just callin' it for what it is

not sayin' they (g funk) ain't shyt or nothin' like that, just sayin'

 

[I love Latina women]

Stop calling it biting. I don't understand how anyone can be a fan of hip hop and then shyt on sampling if you know the origin for it. There wasn't a band playing original music. You rapped over the breaks/loops that the DJ played.

I'm always trying to hear the original song that was sampled but I've never lost respect for the beat if it wasn't flipped. I get an appreciation for the original because it's usually a song I've never heard. Sampling revives old music.

It's not lazy to use popular records either. They were obviously going for that nostalgia feel with a record the masses knew. They made Benjamins too so it's not like they only sampled pop hits.

bitin', samplin, borrowin, however you wanna put it. hip hop is built from break beats and samplin' classic old records

i never said it was lazy for people to use popular records, i said it can be lazy to use those records and not doin' anythin' creative with them sometimes

sometimes no changin' much of the record works, like how puffy and the hitmen did, but that's not to say it's still no lazy. not when you compare how creative rza and premier did flip shyt.