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I meant on the black side of music. white music? Nah, my parents on some reverse
nobody wants to admit it but the more u go back and listen to parliament funkadelic.....
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Loops ain't shyt.
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A good loop is cool. You not getting a ton of credit from me (like an ill chop or flip), but I see no problem with it in moderation. It's when dudes start making it the bulk of their catalogue that it starts to get questionable.
Dre has a ton of looped shyt.
Dre has a ton of looped shyt.
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Dr. Dre has built his career off interpolated loops
you made a hate thread to do numbers. good for you.the less impressive what a lot of nikkas was doin' with g funk with samplin'/playin' back those funk tunes becomes
i'm listenin' to some parliament now (their funkentelechy vs. the placebo syndrome album) and it just really hit me just how really what nikkas like dre was doin' really won't all that
now, i am an r&b head before anythin' else (i know it's funk but you get my point) but it just really dawned on me how dre and them really ain't do much. nor did above the law
i know this thread might catch a lot of hate but fukk it, it is what it is
truth is no one thought what hiphop was doing was some kind of groundbreaking instrumentation. it was music appreciation. how many times do we have to go over this.
thats all areas and eras of hiphop. thats all it ever has been.
i sample classical music
you sample jazz
i sample funk
you sample reggae
i make my melodies the same as edm melodies
etc. etc. etc. etc on and on.
sample means taking a part of something. even dre replaying it was still him reproducing the same song just making it cleaner than a sample would be. with his own groove and drum underneath. thats all hiphop has ever done. anyone saying different is a liar. so there's no need for the hate. just know what hiphop is and what it isnt. what it isnt, is some super instrumentation. so why did you think it ever was that?
so again yall up in hiphop looking for dudes to play brand new notes and instruments. aint going to happen bruhs. thats not what hiphop is. so stop comparing it to other genres. its unlike any other genre because its the only genre that intentionally uses ALL genres as its base product. the only thing thats new is the drum and there are only so many drum combinations you can use and still be hiphop. yall sound like old head jazz musicians and old head white radio hosts hating on hiphop back when it started because guys didnt play instruments.
remember why it was created and who was creating it. a bunch of hood kids that had no access to instruments. which is the same reason dudes were beatboxing back in the day. the cheapest instrument is your own vocal box.
do yall know why MOST hood dudes dont play instruments? because its a semi expensive hobby to some degree, to get legit paid for lessons and to buy instruments. the few people in the hood that play instruments grew up with a parent/uncle/aunt who did the same or they were just blessed with the ability to hear something and play it with ease without real musical knowledge. but white people that are middle class play guitar, piano all the time. its not anything special to them. same with asians that are middle class or upper class. they play violin/cello/piano/keyboard, etc.
black kids may play the drums, organ in church. thats about as good as it gets. our music programs in the hood are always getting cut first and we always have issues with having enough instruments to go around for all the kids. THIS is why MOST of us are not playing instruments. this is why those broke kids from the hood made hiphop by chopping up breakbeats, then sampling. because they didnt have the instruments or the lessons to play melodies themselves.
hiphop = soul food. the only reason it was created was due to our condition. so you can't compare it to regular genres that are based on using instruments to create songs.
wacky i got love for you.but you are a hater for saying the same thing the op said. again hiphop was never to be like other genres where guys play instruments and come up with their own melodies. hiphop = music appreciation. no more and no less. so you should never look at it just because guys are looping/sampling whole parts.
You don't have to look down on hip hop producers. But you definitely have to recognize the greatness and genius of musicians in the 70s. They were making magic in that era.
But then again I have seen people try to argue that "electronic" musicians are just as talented as composers and people who play the instruments that get sampled....naw. There's levels to this shyt...
But then again I have seen people try to argue that "electronic" musicians are just as talented as composers and people who play the instruments that get sampled....naw. There's levels to this shyt...
I'm not mad at any of that.
I just don't like when dre gets propped up as the goat, and the 1st beats that get mentioned in his defense are tracks that are str8 loops.
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it's not a "hate" thread, clearly just an opinion that i left open for debate because that's what we do here
i said what i said in the thread title and that what is
how 1 perceives it and or thinks is on them
i got my opinion just like the next nikka do
I'm so glad my parents let me mess around with their vinyls & cassettes at a young age.
half of the time, I was able to spot a sample right away. either that, or there was always my parents or some other oldhead around, letting it be known where the music came from.
theres still a ton of joints that I didn't know were samples until years later. hell, I'm still discovering original beats of certain songs.
dre is still great. but I cant take him seriously as the so-called goat, when the majority of his best beats are either looped or ghost-produced by someone else.
btw, I still love sampling and yes I love loops too. I just hate when people get too much credit off of false pretenses. like that other thread where dudes were trying to give Daz credit for that "ambitionz of a ridah" beat. what makes it worse, is that he didn't even sample another genre. he sampled a rap song from 10 years prior. and nobody gives a f*ck about the original beatmaker that did 90% of the work. its a shame.
half of the time, I was able to spot a sample right away. either that, or there was always my parents or some other oldhead around, letting it be known where the music came from.
theres still a ton of joints that I didn't know were samples until years later. hell, I'm still discovering original beats of certain songs.
dre is still great. but I cant take him seriously as the so-called goat, when the majority of his best beats are either looped or ghost-produced by someone else.
btw, I still love sampling and yes I love loops too. I just hate when people get too much credit off of false pretenses. like that other thread where dudes were trying to give Daz credit for that "ambitionz of a ridah" beat. what makes it worse, is that he didn't even sample another genre. he sampled a rap song from 10 years prior. and nobody gives a f*ck about the original beatmaker that did 90% of the work. its a shame.