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It was Haitian music and French oldies I discovered old soul, funk and R&B through American media and hip hop when reading credits on albums
 

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Haitians are more isolated than other west Indians

(They Into thier own thing)

But most west Indians (Jamaicans..Trinis...crucians..Bajan)

Know and listened to AMERICAN SOUL MUSIC ALOT

cause of the Soundsystems

For instance in Jamaica and other island soundsystems that I grew up with was playing old school STAX and MOTOWN songs

Such as STONE LOVE SOUND INTL. ... SOUL SUPREME.....GEMINI DISCO

TEC 9 outta the Virgin islands played alot of classic r&b and American rap

and even going back further to the 50s you had soundsystems like Tom the Sebastian (metromedia)...Duke Reid...Coxsone Sound playing Blues and R&b


So yes WE NON ADOS PEOPLE GREW UP ON CLASSIC SOUL....like EARTH WIND AND FIRE...TEDDY P......MAZE



We ARE BLACK TOO....WE HAVE RHYTHM

STOP THIS TRIBAL SHYT...YALL INTERNET NERDS ARE DELUSIONAL

THAT A.D.O.S SHYT AIN'T POPPING IN THESE STREETS

AS MAZE SAID ..WE ARE ONE
Do you think it's because of the language barrier? The other islands (non-latin caribbean) have English as an official language. I know Haitians speak French & Kreyol. I dont know how prevalent English is or was there.
 

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Do you think it's because of the language barrier? The other islands (non-latin caribbean) have English as an official language. I know Haitians speak French & Kreyol. I dont know how prevalent English is or was there.
definitely the language barrier
The elite, people who worked in tourist areas or with foreign missionaries, Haitians who did/do seasonal work on English speaking islands, deportees, and some locals speak English. The rest of the country has always spoken French/Kreyol (with some Spanish speakers)

Latin American music is/was popular among some of the older Haitian crowd,though.But again, that's based on places Haitians have traveled back and forth for work...like Cuba.
 

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Do you think it's because of the language barrier? The other islands (non-latin caribbean) have English as an official language. I know Haitians speak French & Kreyol. I dont know how prevalent English is or was there.


Yes I think so and economics as well

I have a cousin in Martinique which is french based as well

And she never fukked with Soul Music that much either.....

But they didn't have as many American tourists and real estate investors like Jamaica...virgin islands..Barbados ...and other antillies islands

Lots of American investors set up radio stations in the islands too playing Soul..Country and Pop

My mother is Black from St Kitts and grew up on Country music and soul

Even in Jamaica alot of the early rub a dub reggae songs were country and soul covers

Sanchez for instance is a Jamaican who made his living covering old soul and country classics like this one:



Especially Outlaw country cause Jamaica was like the wild wild west

But it's not as resistent as Haiti

Haiti just had little American influence as opposed to the other islands

Because they didn't have many American "inflitators"
 
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Yes I think so and economics as well

I have a cousin in Martinique which is french based as well

And she never fukked with Soul Music that much either.....

But they didn't have as many American tourists and real estate investors like Jamaica...virgin islands..Barbados ...and other antillies islands

Lots of American investors set up radio stations in the islands too playing Soul..Country and Pop

My mother is Black from St Kitts and grew up on Country music and soul

Even in Jamaica alot of the early rub a dub reggae songs were country and soul covers

Sanchez for instance is a Jamaican who made his living covering old soul and country classics like this one:



Especially Outlaw country cause Jamaica was like the wild wild west

But it's not as resistent as Haiti

Haiti just had little American influence as opposed to the other islands

Because they didn't have many American "inflitators"

Jamaicans used to be able to pick up (American)Southern radio stations in the mid 20th century , or so I've read. All types of formats of music. JA had a wide range of American musical influences for that reason......jazz,blues,R&B,country,pop.....just like you pointed out.

It's actually a very unique place in terms of music culture. Creating their own local music, being influenced by other islands and America, combing the local elements and outside influences and forming new music.
 

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Jamaicans used to be able to pick up (American)Southern radio stations in the mid 20th century , or so I've read. All types of formats of music. JA had a wide range of American musical influences for that reason......jazz,blues,R&B,country,pop.....just like you pointed out.

It's actually a very unique place in terms of music culture. Creating their own local music, being influenced by other islands and America, combing the local elements and outside influences and forming new music.

It really is unique ...

Which made me embrace it back in the late 80s early 90s

I remember first hearing the reggae artist SANCHEZ doing a dancehall cover of Babyface 'GIVE IT A CHANCE" hearing that in 1991...BASS rumbling with that souful voice drove me insane
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But the credit must go to the Soundsystem operators like Duke Reid and Tom the Sebastian and Coxsone Dodd who would hear the sounds coming from the distant American radio stations..

Cause the signals was faint most of Jamaica didn't hear the American radio cause AM signals were weak based on distance

So Dodd...Duke Reid and Tom would Travel to America buy the vinyl R&B and jazz and blues and country tracks to play in the DANCEHALL

and they would have CLASHES aka BATTLES to see who had the BEST TUNES and LOUDEST SOUNDS

It was like that for many decades starting in the 50s with Duke Reid and Tom the Sebastian

On up to the 80s and 90s when Soundsystems like Soul Supreme..Tec 9...Addies start migrating to America and start recording R&B artists to do SPECIALS (exclusives) drops and dubplates for the reggae audience cause they had the money and the connections

Like when KING ADDIES got crowned the title the Billboard sound because they were able to record TONI BRAXTON live in a Flatbush Avenue studio in the Heart of BROOKLYN doing a Dubplate version of BREATH AGAIN for thier soundsystem

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/bro...oard-sound-of-reggae-31st-anniversary.164679/

It changed the game next thing you know ADDIES had built a vault of R&B and American Hip Hop dubs from everyone from Luther Vandross and Lauryn Hill to Lil Kim and Snoop Dogg
 
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Here is a good Sunday morning mix of CLASSIC R&B by the "IMMORTAL STONE LOVE" the most infamous Sound System in reggae history

Stone Love made it's mark playing r&b along with Rockers and Reggae

But got respected because it could stand up in a clash to any rival who wan test
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"Stone Love we ago send Dem to hell..Jesus Christ nah a lie we a tell lawd haff mercy'
-Bounti Killa

 

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But the credit must go to the Soundsystem operators like Duke Reid and Tom the Sebastian and Coxsone Dodd who would hear the sounds coming from the distant American radio stations..

Cause the signals was faint most of Jamaica didn't hear the American radio cause AM signals were weak based on distance
I'm not sure how widespread radios were in Jamaica, or when most households would get them. but every account, interview and documentary says that people in JA were able to pick up Miami, New Orleans, and other cities' stations on their radios.
It threw me off reading this as a teen, because it didn't seem to make sense in terms of distance.
But I didn't factor in that there wasn't much interference blocking those radio signals at the time. I also think that local businesses would have powerful radios inside the store as an attraction for customers, the way modern day sports bars have games on satellite . Those businesses would go on to be the same ones who played American 45s in stores later, and where the sound system entrepreneurs came from.

Speaking of radio, in MY personal experience as a younger guy Americans from the midwest and Jamaicans had the widest musical exposure and influence. Among the dudes I went to school with Detroit dudes specifically had that wide range. My man from there explained to me that all tours and all Black music formats were played in Detroit. West Coast acts that didn't get burn on east coast stations or do shows there....played in Detroit. East Coast acts that didn't sell out West, would play in the D. He fukked with all the records that the east coast guys played and he knew about the songs that the Cali guys were pumping.
This was the case when I was younger, when terrestrial radio still drove record sales. Internet has changed all of that
 
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